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Harrop MPTS Hearing

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/10/2021 16:18

I thought this may be of interest:

www.mpts-uk.org/hearings-and-decisions/medical-practitioners-tribunals/dr-adrian-harrop-nov-21

The tribunal will inquire into the allegation that from 10 May 2018 to 23 November 2019, Dr Harrop inappropriately used his Twitter account to post tweets that were offensive and/or insulting and/or inappropriate in nature and some of which were intended to intimidate.

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HDDD · 15/11/2021 17:10

All that nasty tweeting got him an award for being a great ally too. Wrong side of history good (hoping he's soon an EX) doctor, wrong side.

Artichokeleaves · 15/11/2021 17:03

We are not challenging the witnesses. But we don't agree with them. Confused

That one's up there with 'despite two written warnings I persisted because I was using my platform for good'.

Motorina · 15/11/2021 17:03

@FindTheTruth

By not challenging the witnesses, GP wants to make it clear that that doesn’t mean, they are accepted. Adjourned until 11am@ tomorrow.
But that's exactly what it means. It means their evidence is unchallenged. Unless something comes to light in subsequent evidence which contradicts them, it really can't mean much else other than they're accepted.

It is a very odd decision.

GreyhoundG1rl · 15/11/2021 17:02

All women should be allowed to use the women's toilets...except actual biological women 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
This guy is actually insane, surely to God? Allowing him to keep his medical licence to deal with the public at large would be a complete travesty.

FindTheTruth · 15/11/2021 17:00

By not challenging the witnesses, GP wants to make it clear that that doesn’t mean, they are accepted. Adjourned until 11am@ tomorrow.

Blackopal · 15/11/2021 16:52

Such a strange little creature, and a very dangerous one.

I hope the GMC realise what a liability he is and cut him loose.

FindTheTruth · 15/11/2021 16:51

The chair is now referring to the witnesses. GP states the defence won’t be cross examining any of them. GP won’t challenge the way the witnesses view the tweets.

The chair is now asking, “are we going to take an objective view as to how the tweets would be viewed?” Both GP and RD seem to be in agreement with this.

RedDogsBeg · 15/11/2021 16:51

The chair is now referring to the witnesses. GP states the defence won’t be cross examining any of them. GP won’t challenge the way the witnesses view the tweets.

Well, why would that be? Because it would make your client look far worse than he already does perhaps?

Motorina · 15/11/2021 16:51

There seems to be a hope that the definition of 'offensive' may not be specific enough or definite enough that the court cannot be certain whether or not a tweet met the criteria.

They're on a hiding to nothing with that one. Panellists aren't daft and are perfectly capable of working out what 'offensive' means.

I do think it's reasonable that the GMC clarifies which tweets exactly they are alledging are offensive, so Harrop knows exactly what the allegations are.

RoyalCorgi · 15/11/2021 16:51

@littlbrowndog

Harrop saying ciswomen should have separate toilets due to violence they might do and kept apart from other women. 🤦‍♀️🤣
That was glorious - Harrop demonstrating that not only is he a nasty abusive shit, he is too thick to understand that what he is proposing as a gotcha against feminists is exactly what feminists have been campaigning for all this time.

Does he have any redeeming features at all? Because I wouldn't employ him as a roadsweeper, frankly.

FindTheTruth · 15/11/2021 16:48

RD concludes his opening with, “This is just an outline of the evidence the GMC wishes to submit.”

Harrop’s representative Mr Giles Powell (GP) is referring to Article 6. GP wants to know exactly which tweet is for example offensive, which is considered insulting, which is considered inappropriate. They accept some are inappropriate but defence want GMC to specify which…

Tweet is categorised as what. GP wants the categorisation to be clear with reasons why…[e.g. tweet 20 is insulting because].

Artichokeleaves · 15/11/2021 16:46

There seems to be a hope that the definition of 'offensive' may not be specific enough or definite enough that the court cannot be certain whether or not a tweet met the criteria.

Later he will require them to explain how they can be certain that water is wet.

Hopefully the GMC may ask in return to pin down what transphobia actually is, we've been waiting years for that one.

Jeeeez · 15/11/2021 16:45

@tribunaltweets are tweeting every day from his tribunal.

Some of it will be held in private session and all the people involved are currently anonymous. We found out today that he was given 2 written warnings by his boss prior to it coming to the GMC so his ability to learn from his behaviour seems somewhat impaired...

ArabellaScott · 15/11/2021 16:44

[quote BoreOfWhabylon]Some of Adrain's greatest hits collated in this twitter thread
mobile.twitter.com/JammersMinde/status/1450541086955479047[/quote]
Holy cow. When you see it all gathered in one place ...

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/11/2021 16:44

Interesting...

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BoreOfWhabylon · 15/11/2021 16:40

Some of Adrain's greatest hits collated in this twitter thread
mobile.twitter.com/JammersMinde/status/1450541086955479047

WarriorN · 15/11/2021 16:39

I've just read that.

Jfc.

Datun · 15/11/2021 16:37

@MrsJamin

"When positioned behind his smartphone, Dr Harrop lost sight of his professional responsibility. GMC say Harrop acted in a way that called the medial profession into disrepute."
They can't really think that when he wasn't on his phone, he turned into a decent, responsible, caring, empathetic and non-sexist individual.

Can you imagine, when he wasn't being watched in public? His misogyny would be off the scale.

happydappy2 · 15/11/2021 16:37

His behaviour was outrageous, as was that of a certain flying lawyer. I hope everyone involved in bullying & intimidation is named & shamed.

Datun · 15/11/2021 16:34

I would not feel safe around this doctor. I could not discuss my physical or mental health needs with any expectation of privacy or care.

God no. He'd use it against you as soon as he found out if your political viewpoints were different from his.

MrsJamin · 15/11/2021 16:33

"When positioned behind his smartphone, Dr Harrop lost sight of his professional responsibility. GMC say Harrop acted in a way that called the medial profession into disrepute."

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MonsignorMirth · 15/11/2021 16:33

@littlbrowndog

Harrop saying ciswomen should have separate toilets due to violence they might do and kept apart from other women. 🤦‍♀️🤣
Beautiful Just beautiful

I thought he was just fronting to be deliberately offensive but... is he really quite thick?

Re the 'take your meds' tweets - just imagine if you were one of his patients who takes medication for any kind of mental health disorder. What on earth is your reaction going to be when you see your OWN GP using your specific medical situation AS A KIND OF FUNNY 'JOKE' TO INSULT A STRANGER?

ArabellaScott · 15/11/2021 16:33

@littlbrowndog

Harrop saying ciswomen should have separate toilets due to violence they might do and kept apart from other women. 🤦‍♀️🤣
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Artichokeleaves · 15/11/2021 16:30

IIRC, Harrop posted some kind of fake prescription for Glinner, with the implication that the latter had an extremely serious mental health problem.

Wonder if that will come up, as that was one of the most serious incidents.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 15/11/2021 16:28

"on the other side of the 'transgender' debate"

I thought it was strictly #NoDebate?