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Harrop MPTS Hearing

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/10/2021 16:18

I thought this may be of interest:

www.mpts-uk.org/hearings-and-decisions/medical-practitioners-tribunals/dr-adrian-harrop-nov-21

The tribunal will inquire into the allegation that from 10 May 2018 to 23 November 2019, Dr Harrop inappropriately used his Twitter account to post tweets that were offensive and/or insulting and/or inappropriate in nature and some of which were intended to intimidate.

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ArabellaScott · 17/11/2021 15:34

@TrainedByCats

Suggest anyone reading this thread who made a complaint to the GMC get in touch with them to ask whether their details have been passed to Vice World News
Shock
BreadInCaptivity · 17/11/2021 15:34

Terf - you might be better contacting MTPS.

Contact details here:

www.mpts-uk.org/contact-us

Terfydactyl · 17/11/2021 15:31

@TrainedByCats

Suggest anyone reading this thread who made a complaint to the GMC get in touch with them to ask whether their details have been passed to Vice World News
That's a bloody good idea. I was one who complained but I didnt want to go further, obviously and with other reasons. I Can only imagine what shit is coming my way now if my details were given. Anyone got an email address? I've got to run off to work in a few minutes.
BreadInCaptivity · 17/11/2021 15:31

@Artichokeleaves

One imagines a harrassed barrister in a closed room with a client tearing his hair and inquiring wtaf were you thinking?!

Oh to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.....

I wonder how the Chair will react to this news?

Obviously the GMC thinks that it's important.

Artichokeleaves · 17/11/2021 15:31

@TrainedByCats

Suggest anyone reading this thread who made a complaint to the GMC get in touch with them to ask whether their details have been passed to Vice World News
.......... excellent point.

Although surely neither he nor VWN could be that stupid?

TrainedByCats · 17/11/2021 15:29

Suggest anyone reading this thread who made a complaint to the GMC get in touch with them to ask whether their details have been passed to Vice World News

Signalbox · 17/11/2021 15:28

OMG I’ve just read the Vice article... Harrop must really want a career change. I hope his stage 2 reflections read something like this. The panel will have a field day…

“Today, Harrop is “deeply sorry” for the negative implications of his tweets, even in the face of extreme abuse, both then and now.”

ItsLittoralViolins · 17/11/2021 15:28

I would imagine that quite a few people have contacted the MPTS after seeing that Vice article published and publicised on Twitter.

Artichokeleaves · 17/11/2021 15:26

One imagines a harrassed barrister in a closed room with a client tearing his hair and inquiring wtaf were you thinking?!

Sophoclesthefox · 17/11/2021 15:24

Why on earth anyone thought that Vice piece was helpful to Harrop, I’ve no idea. With friends like those…!

This is going to go very badly.

BreadInCaptivity · 17/11/2021 15:22

WOW!!!

Effzeh · 17/11/2021 15:22

@BoreOfWhabylon

"Terrible language" like JKR's tweets.

Like "Woman = Adult Human Female"

Gleefully hunting down and harrassing/doxxing women, chortling with his TRA troll buddies.

Ah yes, the noble knight on a glittery unicorn steed, brandishing his rainbow sword of truth and justice to smite his enemies.

Ah yes, the 'sword of truth' line. The one that played so well for the last high-profile bloke who deployed that tactic. Hmm
FindTheTruth · 17/11/2021 15:21

@BoreOfWhabylon look!

TWEET
SafeguardWomen&Girls
@selfcommit2othe
Live now: Sorry this is a break from my thread which I will continue with. On return from the break the GMC have just informed the chair of a news article they have been just made aware of. The hearing has just be adjourned for the GMC to seek further information &

for AH Counsel to speak to him on this matter only; nothing else is allowed to be discussed with his counsel now he has begun to give evidence.

BreadInCaptivity · 17/11/2021 15:21

Goodness me....that Vice article!!!!

What on earth was he thinking?

It absolutely smacks of "sorry, not sorry" all at a time when demonstrating that he's learned his lesson is presumably crucial to his case?

Then the disclosure of documentation. It's not explicit that AH provided that material to Vice - but realistically who else would have?

I can't fathom how someone intelligent enough to qualify as a doctor can simultaneously and repeatedly show such poor judgment.

BoreOfWhabylon · 17/11/2021 15:19

"Terrible language" like JKR's tweets.

Like "Woman = Adult Human Female"

Gleefully hunting down and harrassing/doxxing women, chortling with his TRA troll buddies.

Ah yes, the noble knight on a glittery unicorn steed, brandishing his rainbow sword of truth and justice to smite his enemies.

FindTheTruth · 17/11/2021 15:09

TWEETS

SafeguardWomen&Girls
@selfcommit2othe
On return AH spoke about “motivation for my engagement in debates - very strong principle on equality for trans people for health & a social basis & engage in public life. Feels passionate about this. Public respect as a Dr. Used platform as felt it was his duty as a campaigner..

.. for the trans community & stands with them. Not allow the ‘opposite side’ to win. I thought at that point in time sending complaints were weaponising to smite me to bring me down. I had a position to defend. Lots more said on how AH stands with the trans community.

GMC - do you have trans friends. AH - more than I can count. Not happy to deny people their humanity. Take umbrage to people who use their platform to deny trans people their right. We live in a pluralistic society, free to own their belief in their heads or in private. My view

… is Twitter is a public platform & has a duty to protect (I think he meant remove?) abhorrent dehumanistic material that impacts on trans people lives who are not afforded the same protection in society. Twitter should not allow views on its platform that are harmful to trans.

Tweeter is like speakers corner. I see it as my right to challenge people’s views & my right to present my opinion. It became my duty to do that. I am not trans but terrible language was challenged. I did get emotionally involved which I regret at this time. I understand as a Dr

PigeonLittle · 17/11/2021 15:08

I did wonder. Worth taking down.

In addition Mumsnet can retroactively change usernames on posts if needed.

WitchButNotTheFunKind · 17/11/2021 15:08

@Cailleach1

The witnesses and tweets involved in the case are currently being kept anonymous, but VICE World News was sent all of the material being discussed in the tribunal, including the full dossier of allegations, witness statements, and documents defending the doctor.

Interestingly, they don't spell out the 'comment's by the defendant. Maybe he/she/furry wouldn't appear quite so righteous if they did. Are they too damning and would spoil him/her/furry identifying as more sinned against than sinning?

Many women will have made complaints on the understanding they would not suffer repercussions as a result. The thought of Vice, who are trash and have form for outing lesbians, potentially having names of complainants and details of their complaints is hugely concerning.
BoreOfWhabylon · 17/11/2021 15:07

I asked MNHQ to withdraw my posts just to be on the safe side. Sorry that a couple who quoted me also were taken down.

SpittinKitten · 17/11/2021 14:57

@ArabellaScott

Vice article is on archive.org.
Thank you!
JemimaTab · 17/11/2021 14:56

It seems rather unwise to be running off to blab to the press about an ongoing tribunal case to me. Although I suppose we should expect it from Harrop.
I notice they’ve used a “serious doctor” photo of him in the article instead of his usual “auditioning for a role on CBBC”.

PigeonLittle · 17/11/2021 14:56

@ArabellaScott

Vice article is on archive.org.
Excellent.
FindTheTruth · 17/11/2021 14:53

@ArabellaScott

Vice article is on archive.org.
smart move 👏
Cbtb · 17/11/2021 14:53

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow trainees have to know the GMC guidance, they also have to evidence how they are complying with it in their portfolio. Medical schools frequently and in depth teach these issues and the social media guidance. The BMA has also posted advice on the guidance. The GMC have many many flaws including being iNsitutionaly racist imo but they also have online training and case studies on their guidance for trainees and other HCPs to do. Let alone the yearly mandatory training your employer makes you suffer through

No young-ish UK trained doctor has any business saying they don’t know it. Not off by heart of course but know it exists and know when to go and look at it.

Artichokeleaves · 17/11/2021 14:52

Sarah Philmore on Twitter just commented that this is a long, drawn out (and expensive) process for just a slap on the wrist.

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