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Harrop MPTS Hearing

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/10/2021 16:18

I thought this may be of interest:

www.mpts-uk.org/hearings-and-decisions/medical-practitioners-tribunals/dr-adrian-harrop-nov-21

The tribunal will inquire into the allegation that from 10 May 2018 to 23 November 2019, Dr Harrop inappropriately used his Twitter account to post tweets that were offensive and/or insulting and/or inappropriate in nature and some of which were intended to intimidate.

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ArabellaScott · 18/11/2021 22:24

I never wanted to gain fame and notoriety for speaking up. But ...

nauticant · 18/11/2021 18:35

I should have posted that on the current thread not this one!

nauticant · 18/11/2021 18:34

In the tribunal AH set out his future plans:

twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1461350325168705541

Motorina · 18/11/2021 11:26

@Jeeeez

I have passed on Mumsnet posters' praise and thanks to *@selfcommit2others* for tweeting yesterday. She was very surprised and delighted
Thank you - much appreciated.
mateysmum · 18/11/2021 11:16

Anybody there?New thread? Bump

Personwithrage · 18/11/2021 10:52

Is there a new thread for this?

Thenose · 18/11/2021 10:39

How does he think this sounds to reasonable people? His lack of insight is staggering.

Lovelyricepudding · 18/11/2021 10:37

Surely 'only banter' is a perfect way to show you lack of insight into the impact of your behaviour? Something doctors need?

TheBlackDarner · 18/11/2021 10:33

Oh, the great "only banter" defence?
That'll go down well I'm sure. Hmm
I wonder what they think at cmagic HQ at Merseycare NHS Trust?

Redshoeblueshoe · 18/11/2021 10:31

So it was their fault I did it Shock

Beowulfa · 18/11/2021 10:26

Very interesting side notes about the difficulty of failing weak students. When I was at university (red brick, late 90s) a good friend was starting Medicine. In her first month they did full-on anatomy with dissection of human remains, with an emphasis on "this is the human body, get used to it." They were also given some blunt stats on the numbers of people that would likely die on their watch through their exhaustion/inexperience as junior doctors.

I was at university just before Blair brought fees in. It would be fascinating to see a study of course materials, failure rates, type of assessment etc in certain subjects before and after universities became businesses.

mammajustkilledagnat · 18/11/2021 10:23

Oh, it's OK MonsignorMirth he's just stated 'Only ppl in the world who can piece together the Wentworth is a very oblique ref would be either E herself or anyone who already aware'

MonsignorMirth · 18/11/2021 10:19

I didn't name anyone but have requested my post be deleted. Suggest people Google the names of anyone they want to know about - there's much more out there than I posted!

Shortpoet · 18/11/2021 10:18

…And given a recent press interview saying he wanted to silence the other side and that he will win.

RocketPanda · 18/11/2021 10:16

Bet he's going to have memory problems.

Shortpoet · 18/11/2021 10:16

His defence seems to be it was just lighthearted bants.

Which could possibly work if he hadn’t carried on after two warnings.

Mummyoflittledragon · 18/11/2021 10:14

@Fariha31
I totally agree with you. Was not trying to state I did not.

The cross examination on the Vice article could prove interesting, I imagine! Oops… think he may have slipped on his banana skin there.

Jeeeez · 18/11/2021 10:10

Has started again. Was I think adjourned to discuss Vice article and how to cross examine on this once cross examination has started and AH cannot talk to his lawyers until finished

RocketPanda · 18/11/2021 10:07

Adjourned? Why?

RocketPanda · 18/11/2021 10:06

Back when AH was only starting to be noticed by posters here I said he was trying to become the next TV Doctor.
His chickens have well and truly come home to roost. His misogyny is laid bare for all to see.

ExceptionalAssurance · 18/11/2021 10:03

Hearing has started and almost immediately adjourned.

Jeeeez · 18/11/2021 10:02

I have passed on Mumsnet posters' praise and thanks to @selfcommit2others for tweeting yesterday. She was very surprised and delighted

MidsomerMurmurs · 18/11/2021 09:54

he just wants to go out in a blaze of glory and be a martyr to the wonderful cause of righteousness and glory

I do wonder if that's what the Vice interview was all about. I think AH sees himself as this:
Jon Bon Jovi - Blaze of Glory

But in reality it's more like this:
Bon Jovi - It's My Life (shred)

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 18/11/2021 09:46

Is it because it's a university course first and foremost and therefore all the uni mitigations and accomodations and allowances apply equally to a course in medicine as they do to English lit?

I'm not involved in education, so can't answer about how mitigations apply. However, one of the issues is that academic performance isn't necessarily a predictor who will struggle as a doctor. You don't actually need to be that academic to be a doctor and half (at least!) of what you learn in med school is of no day to day relevance to your work.

So someone can do brilliantly academically, and still be entirely unsuited to be a doctor. Conversely, many people who fail exams at med school will go on to be excellent doctors. Really, the weeding out should be of people with the wrong personality traits or lack of emotional resilience but - of course - that's incredibly hard. And who would you pick in practice? A lot of the doctors who struggle most are high-achieving, highly motivated women who will be excellent doctors to their patients, but who will go under emotionally because they cannot cope with the mismatch between patient need and what they are able to offer.