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Margaret Atwood

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MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 19/10/2021 14:22

twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/1450429768067846145?t=8q-A8MlvzZsx6pt4Vu1_LA&s=19

Has retweeted an article from the Toronto Star "why can't we say woman anymore" and bloody hell are they coming for the latest witch burning in the comments!

Ranging from disappointment to the usual sweary abuse. I thought oh how long till the capitulation begins, turns out I didn't have to wait long!

She's following it up with retweets about 'we can say people when it's accurate and inclusive' and then defending the article because the writer isn't "a terf"???

Not really sure what she's trying to achieve here, anyone?

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1Week · 24/10/2021 22:23

Yy, I said that above. She's an elderly widow, most possibly alone, whose address has been doxxed

ArabellaScott · 24/10/2021 22:21

@beastlyslumber

I'm worried for her tbh. I hope she has good people around her in real life. She should probably just leave twitter for a little while and regroup. I hope she has someone around who can give her that advice.
Yes, true. There are some unstable and unsafe people on Twitter, many of whom have already decided she is beyond the pale.
KittenKong · 24/10/2021 22:19

What countess said...

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 24/10/2021 22:16

Helen8220 said Atwood was showing dignity.

beastlyslumber · 24/10/2021 22:16

I'm worried for her tbh. I hope she has good people around her in real life. She should probably just leave twitter for a little while and regroup. I hope she has someone around who can give her that advice.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 24/10/2021 22:15

@KittenKong

Dignified? I see desperate to appease hygiene throwing abuse and threats her way. I imagine she is scared.
I was referring to Maya when I used dignified :

this can only be helped by Maya Forstater's very dignified thread

If you mean Atwood, yes, she is scared and she is in Room 101 here.

2319inprogress · 24/10/2021 22:14

I really couldn't have less respect for MA now- set her 2million followers on JKR & Maya FFS. Maya who is of course utterly brilliant but also a normal person without access to security etc

I'm so angry; the longer she went the more hopeful I got but all she has done is taught them to keep up the vile abuse for longer on the next woman who speaks up, it would have better if she had kept quiet.

KittenKong · 24/10/2021 22:13

Hygiene? *those

KittenKong · 24/10/2021 22:09

Dignified? I see desperate to appease hygiene throwing abuse and threats her way. I imagine she is scared.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 24/10/2021 22:07

@Helen8220

Strikes me MA is showing considerable dignity and resolve in refusing to abandon the middle ground in order to score points with one side or the other, and by continuing to listen to - and see strengths and weaknesses in - the arguments and approaches on both sides. I have nothing but admiration for her.
She has retweeted the same article that people with CCSDs/DSDs asked her not to, ages ago.

Here are some of their replies from today.

Margaret please do not use materials that misrepresent people like myself with DSDs. I am sorry you have been subjected to such abuse in last day but this should make you more sympathetic to women who have had to deal with even worse abuse

twitter.com/soulfoodie/status/1452189152653553666?t=5yw0YfM9zQKaBCGzvOR2aw&s=19

Dear @MargaretAtwood please leave those of us born with variations of sex development out of these debates, this is not the way to support a marginalised group of people
t.co/AmN61AIqxr

twitter.com/ClareCAIS/status/1452181657386209280?t=5yw0YfM9zQKaBCGzvOR2aw&s=19

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 24/10/2021 22:02

I think her behaviour at this point is shocking. I have lost any respect I ever had for her.

Be kind, eh?

HowToCookAWolf · 24/10/2021 21:53

@FindTheTruth

Jammidoger has made a lot of money from that video that attacks JK Rowling and attacks Maya with false accusations. TRA woke teachers. /teaching assistants in schools link to this video to silence school kids questioning their beliefs. Detransitioners mention trans men YT videos that told them life would be great and now they regret watching them. and Margaret Attwood promotes it even after the vile abuse she's received. Not innocent. Not kind. Not harmless
Good series of rebuttals, for anyone who hasn't seen them:
ArabellaScott · 24/10/2021 21:51

She claims not to know what 'gc' means. So how is she listening to that 'side' of the argument? So far, as far as I can see, she's read nothing at all that would be called 'gc'. Only asked some mild questions of the genderist side. Which, as we know, is verboten, hence the doxxing, rape and death threats.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 24/10/2021 21:49

She’s hardly listening when she retweets a video full of proven lies about Maya.

Helen8220 · 24/10/2021 21:46

Strikes me MA is showing considerable dignity and resolve in refusing to abandon the middle ground in order to score points with one side or the other, and by continuing to listen to - and see strengths and weaknesses in - the arguments and approaches on both sides. I have nothing but admiration for her.

SpookySeason77 · 24/10/2021 21:43

@ViceLikeBlip
"If a transwoman is identically the same as all other women"
Nobody said trans and cis women are "identically the same". Just that they're both women.

"But surely, logically, "cisplaining" can't exist?"
Cis people are the dominant oppressor group, and trans people are the marginalized group. Cis people lack trans people's lived experienced with societal transphobia.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 24/10/2021 21:36

@littlbrowndog

Yeah but she didn’t need to attack other women. She’s a grown women
She chose to betray herself and other women to prove herself to her community of choice.

She chose Maya and JKR. Which men could she have chosen that would have such resonance or have more drawing power in this desperate attempt to divert the SM pack from herself?

This is all somewhere between 1984 and her own Faustian pact.

I am so pleased to see scientists whose names we recognise attempting to engage with her about why she places inappropriate store by the shoddy SciAm article she tweeted. I'm so proud of them and the way that they are turning out for science, for mutual respect, and for civil discourse. I hope posting this link brings up the correct branch of the many replies MA has had.

twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1452133004445306886?s=20

FindTheTruth · 24/10/2021 21:25

thanks little brown, Empress

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 24/10/2021 21:23

@FindTheTruth

Who's Julia and what's she doing?
It’s from 1984 by George Orwell. The main character dropped another character, Julia, in it in the hope that she’d get tortured instead of him.
littlbrowndog · 24/10/2021 21:21

I googled it. From 1984 when winston said do it to Julia

However, Winston's resolve to continue loving Julia is burned away when he finally enters Room 101. O'Brien threatens to let rats devour Winston's face, and in utter desperation he begs O'Brien, "Do it to Julia!"

littlbrowndog · 24/10/2021 21:19

Yeah but she didn’t need to attack other women. She’s a grown women

FindTheTruth · 24/10/2021 21:18

Who's Julia and what's she doing?

littlbrowndog · 24/10/2021 21:18

Maya

Margaret Atwood
1Week · 24/10/2021 21:15

I'm disappointed.

She's been craven but it won't even work.

I wonder has she someone at home. It's horrible being in a twitter storm and you need someone to take the phone out of your hands, pour you a glass and put on your favourite comedy and tell you you are still a good person. I know she is not long widowed.

littlbrowndog · 24/10/2021 21:14

Yeah do it to Julia

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