Margaret Atwood

There is a definite idea amongst my friends that having GC beliefs is in deed unfair and cruel to trans women. And everyone says they know at least one lovely trans woman so they immediately leap to their defence without REALLY understanding what a gender critical stance is....

Then I get a text from a pal of mine one night whilst she's in the loo saying she's scared because there is a man in there....

Then another girl at our local school declares themselves non binary and that now makes more than 20.

They see laurel Hubbard and feel sorry for her, especially as she didn't even win... Until I tell them lh was voted NZ sportswoman of the year ahead of 20 actual Olympic medal winners....

When I first became aware of this issue I joined the dots literally straight away. I am wondering what is taking everyone else so long.....

Three news articles on it so far. On Twitter, I only see one death threat and one 'suck my [usual]'. The famous Canadian politeness.

I’ve just followed her on Twitter. Hopefully she’s gone over to the dark side!

#TERFs is trending. If we can get some column inches out of this that would really help. We’re on a roll.

Yes:

MA: Why don’t you read it?

Please read it…

Please….

TA Twitter

TERF! TERF! TERF! TERF TERF! TERF!…

*decide

This is exactly the point JKR made, what did she think would happen? Does she think women can decided if we get called terf or not?

I really liked her defence: someone I approve of necessarily not a T*, and how it was received by trans activist twitter.

I know Canada is pretty far gone, but she is the grande dame of letters there. There's only so much they can do to someone of her stature. It's all played out before

I went on Twitter before coming here this evening.

#TERFs is trending

I live outside the UK, so often my “Trending” list doesn’t resemble what is said here, but tonight it does, so the pushback she’s receiving must be huge.

This is fascinating. I know she may try to retreat, but as others have said, retreat from this point is almost invariably unacceptable to those who have scented blood.

And I would love to have Margaret Atwood onside, despite her previous actions regarding JK Rowling.

So the cynic in me thinks she is just getting first making out she was always against this and hoping she'll get lost in the wave of woke celebs turncoats suddenly realising they were in the wrong and woefully out of their depths

I absolutely love this. Much respect to the lady if she really is this Machiavellian. She’s got thousands of TRAs labelling her a TERF now - if this is an actually desired outcome then 🥂to you Margaret!

I also of course love the hopeful light this theory sheds on the current situation. Atwood is in Canada though, getting purposely branded a TERF in Canada at this point in time seems very risky?

Wow.

This is exactly how cults treat members who dissent. They are absolutely pitiless.

Atwood is in her 80s now, and a widow, so I do feel some sympathy for her now. But also: she's intelligent enough to have known what was going on, so not that much sympathy.

Anyone else get the feeling she is the first domino to fall? Surely these intelligent women can see how much the tide is now turning - i think we are past peak trans now and the stonewall expose is the beginning of the end IMHO

So the cynic in me thinks she is just getting first making out she was always against this and hoping she'll get lost in the wave of woke celebs turncoats suddenly realising they were in the wrong and woefully out of their depths.

The fact that Netflix is holding strong in their support of DC, Y the last man getting cancelled before the first seasons over and the dear old beeb slowly, and cynically, changing tune

If this goes on for a little while longer, everyone will just KNOW that Atwood is a violent terf. She will notice that her words do not matter at all, no matter how much she tries to placate the activists - no one will read them.

Just like JKR and Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie.

That ExcelPope article is brilliant. There are so many pertinent literary analogies for what’s happening now, but I’d forgotten about Catch-22’s Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade. Captain Black reminds me of a prominent media personality.

My opinion of Atwood has gone way up. I thought she was massively cynical, but it looks like she was simply fooled by the TRA propaganda machine. She’s got to be at base camp by now.

@NonnyMouse1337 yes, you’d really think she’d see some parallels between what’s happening and y’know… the things she actually WRITTEN. 😂

But so far, she not managed to fill in the blanks.

Fits nicely with other lines AWAs like to push: women have it easy, women don't have to pay for "dates", women can always get sex and incels men can't, women are so lucky they can make easy money doing porn, women routinely lie about rape, women have too much leeway when it comes to suitable work clothing, women have nicer lavatories and better prisons, women have too many rights 🥚🦕🥚🦖 etc.

To these people, talking about womens' rights are saying women should be treated as human IS the equivalent of "all lives matter".

Gosh.

She clearly didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

I don't feel sorry for her at all. She's rich to the point of untouchable and revered worldwide as the sage on dystopian societies. She could have been a voice in support of women living in this terrifying dystopian present. She's betrayed all women.

Like JKR, she's big enough not to get cancelled however much TRAs try. But I'm not getting my hopes up that she's going to tell them where to go.

It's interesting because despite all her efforts to be a good TWAW ally something is clearly niggling at her consciousness. That something won't go away, even if she renounces her sins this time around, it will grow bigger over time.

That's what I thought as well. Clearly she has had some sort of 'impure thoughts' on this issue.