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Queering of Motherhood. <warning>

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WarriorN · 17/10/2021 08:16

Disturbing content.

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-queering-of-motherhood?r=nbcqt&utmcampaign=post&utmmmedium=email&utmsource=

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Truthlikeness · 17/10/2021 10:22

That was a really well-articulated piece. This passage particularly stood out to me.

"The fracturing of women’s selfhood from their sexed bodies that is at the root of gender identity ideology mirrors the splitting of women into objectified, consumable parts depicted in pornography. When women are not defined as adult human females, they are instead relegated to splintered parts that are made available for possession: a lactating person, a pregnant person, a cervix-haver, a menstruator.

All of these terms allow men to not only stake their claim to the female sex but to simultaneously claim that their particular fetish is what truly constitutes womanhood. This dehumanizing language props up a myriad of industries that exist to extract resources from female flesh: the sex industry, the pornography industry, and the burgeoning surrogacy industry. Gender ideology reduces women to parts and functions and in doing so, erases our humanity."

saleorbouy · 17/10/2021 10:21

Wow thus is another level. When will people realise that no amount of hormones or surgery allows you to change sex.
Sex is defined at birth by our chromosomes. After birth a male will never grow a cervix, uterus and ovaries and a woman will never grow testes so they will never fully achieve changing sex except by external appearance and in some function by hormone treatment.
Sure you can dress and change you external appearance to be simulate a different gender but deep inside you're just as you were born.
That's not to say we shouldn't be accepting and respectful of others gender decisions but it should not encroach on the naturally defined differences that society allows in some areas of life were segregation along sex lines allows us to feel comfortable to go to the bathroom, change, etc within the comfort of the same sex.

WarriorN · 17/10/2021 10:15

Sorry phone died and didn't see your excellent analysis anon, thank you

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WarriorN · 17/10/2021 09:54

Thanks for the correction Nec. Good point.

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MidsomerMurmurs · 17/10/2021 09:36

@Scraggythang

I’d read the article on the feeding of the newborn a while back and it still haunts me. Disgusting human being. Just really really gross.
From one of the comments under the article:

seeing these disgusting creeps using hormones to force lactation to wank off is truly the most vomit inducing fetish I’ve seen. I recall seeing an article or a Twitter piece about a [biologically male person] who used hormones to actually breast feed a baby. I was disturbed by the fetish and furious at any medical professionals encouraging or condoning this practice. Pity that poor sweet baby, being fed a diet of synthetic hormones so a man can get some sick orgasmic thrill out of pretending to be a woman. That anyone could view that as anything other than gross child abuse and pedophilia is beyond me

Anontwentyone · 17/10/2021 09:26

@goingslowfornow

Are there any stats on how many Transwomen are autogynephilia?

It's just so disturbing

As Necessary Scene said the majority are het, I read about about 6O% of TW sexually desire women, so there's a very strong chance the majority of that 60% are AGP going by Blanchard's studies.

Another interesting stat on paraphilias is that about 5% (some studies even show as high as 15%) of men have at least one type of paraphilia.

Ranking by prevalence, voyeurism is top, followed by in order fetishism, exhibitionism, masochism, sadism, transvestism, then others (thankfully paedophilia ranks v low).

With transvestism (AGP) ranking in the top five paraphilias, coupled with 1 in 20 men having at least one paraphilia, statistically it's likely AGP could be found in (I'm not a statistician!) around 1 in every 100 man?? Someone else could probably work that out better than me.

The reason why it's significant that most or many men who have a paraphilia have more than one, is because if a man has AGP it's statistically likely he also gets off on exhibitionism and voyeurism (also in the top five).
It's basically a cocktail of desire to gain access to women's spaces.

Scraggythang · 17/10/2021 09:22

I’d read the article on the feeding of the newborn a while back and it still haunts me. Disgusting human being. Just really really gross.

Missmissmiiiiiiiiisss · 17/10/2021 09:19

This is horrific. The baby birthing experience at the end is just unbelievable. I can’t imagine how you could justify it.

Gncq · 17/10/2021 09:02

I can hear gender ideology myth number nine calling....

"Any mention of autogynephilia means you are calling ALL transwomen fetishists/perverts/rapists (delete as appropriate), you must immediately stfu".

NecessaryScene · 17/10/2021 08:57

Are there any stats on how many Transwomen are autogynephilia?

There are stats on sexuality at least. The majority are heterosexual, which would largely imply autogynephilic, if we accept that most fit Blanchard's AGP and HSTS categories. (And I do).

WarriorN · 17/10/2021 08:50

This will not be news to transwidows.

Some of it was news to me.

Hats off to Genevieve and Tish. Thank you for stomaching this stuff.

Zoe is absolutely clueless.

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WarriorN · 17/10/2021 08:48

Do we even have stats on how many transwomen there are? As they can self id?

That word isn't accepted as a true thing, despite being the original diagnosis Blanchard et al worked with, so no.

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goingslowfornow · 17/10/2021 08:47

Are there any stats on how many Transwomen are autogynephilia?

It's just so disturbing

ISaySteadyOn · 17/10/2021 08:39

Eurgh. That's disturbing.

Hattie765 · 17/10/2021 08:30

I really wish I hadn't read that in z Saturday morning 🤢

WarriorN · 17/10/2021 08:23

Extremely, I'd put in the title but it's not come through.

This is sick stuff.

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MidsomerMurmurs · 17/10/2021 08:22

More than disturbing. Seriously.

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