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I'm in Scotland, I can't keep quiet any longer

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LadyNotGivingaF · 16/10/2021 18:17

Just that really. I'm tired of the wronthink. I'm an immigrant woman from a
former communist country. The reeducation and denial of truth do not sit right with me.
I have a DC at a primary school in Scotland. It's astounding to me that parents know so little
of the transgender guidance for schools. After informal chats with other parents, they agree with me
but everyone is too polite/nice and no one wants to be "that parent", well I don't really understand this...this is our kids' education, we entrust our kids in the hands of these people.

So little do they know about blockers, surgeries, and what that entails.

If they call me names, so what? My great-grandad was sent to the Gulag, my grandparents and parents refused to toe the party line and faced the consequences.

I will ask the head to meet after school break. No emails, no possibility
of bureaucratic speak, no escaping this issue, I want her to look me in the eye and tell me what she thinks of this.

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EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 16/10/2021 20:01

So little do they know about blockers, surgeries, and what that entails.

If people knew what they were supporting, I wouldn't understand, but at least I could be confident that they have made some form of risk benefit assessment for individuals and society as a whole. If they are still willing to embrace the consequences of their social and political support for such interventions then I'd work hard to see why this was true for them.

If they call me names, so what? My great-grandad was sent to the Gulag, my grandparents and parents refused to toe the party line and faced the consequences.

Konstantin Kisin of Triggernometry has made some comments that are grounded in a similar family history as to why he is so fundamentally opposed to being deceived by government or gaslighted by unaccountable bodies.

Blessex · 16/10/2021 19:58

Thank you @LadyNotGivingaF. The more of us that speak out against this utter bullshit the better

boobashka · 16/10/2021 19:53

I'm in Scotland too - good luck @LadyNotGivingaF. Sounds like you are well prepared.

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LadyNotGivingaF · 16/10/2021 19:52

@Sexnotgender

I’m in Scotland. I have young children and I’m in the process of trying to move. This shite is 100% a factor in my decision.
Completely understandable, this is also Plan B for us. We have family in the North of England from my husband's side.
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MassiveHoard · 16/10/2021 19:47

Good for you, I applaud your bravery. Stick to facts, they will always trump ideology.

Sexnotgender · 16/10/2021 19:43

I’m in Scotland. I have young children and I’m in the process of trying to move. This shite is 100% a factor in my decision.

zanahoria · 16/10/2021 19:41

I'm an immigrant woman from a former communist country

Do you find that background helps to sniff out the bureaucratic bullshit?

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LadyNotGivingaF · 16/10/2021 19:24

I'm currently listening to the Nolan Report, have read Helen Joyce's book, Trans, listened to a couple of episodes from a Wider Lens on Spotify, have read Angus Fox's articles on Quilette, I follow a couple of detransitioners' on Twitter, I'm aware of Sonia Appleby's case against the Tavi, etc.
I will go in prepared, I have read that Sweden moved away from affirmative care.
I would even consider legal action.

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Fullmoonshine · 16/10/2021 19:20

Solidarity @LadyNotGivingaF, I'm in a similar position and getting a little braver day by day. My industry and union are captured though. It's weirdly terrifying speaking out loud my thoughts, but I could weep with relief whenever I discover a like-minded person at work. The trans activist mob have silenced thousands and thousands of otherwise confident people. Good luck!

334bu · 16/10/2021 19:05

Ask to see their teaching materials and consult Safe School Alliance website before you go, so you know how reputable or not some of the groups providing material are.

nauticant · 16/10/2021 18:51

If they try to avoid heresy by denying negative outcomes of puberty blockers you can tell them they're behind the times, this is the latest thinking from one of the leading trans health practitioners:

bariweiss.substack.com/p/top-trans-doctors-blow-the-whistle

nauticant · 16/10/2021 18:47

A suggestion LadyNotGivingaF. Go into the meeting with a skeleton outline of possible points of discussion. Some examples:
Do they see a distinction between sex and gender?
Stonewall's broad definition of trans lumping together transsexuals intending to undergo gender reassignment surgery with crossdressers.
Do they think a 10 year old child can consent to puberty blockers, bearing in mind this will almost inevitably mean cross-sex hormones leading sterility and probable zero sexual function?

MidsomerMurmurs · 16/10/2021 18:29

Good luck! I too am in Scotland and have DC in Primary. It’s important to find out what’s going on; there can sometimes be reassuring glimmers of hope.

I go along to the Parent Council (virtually on Zoom at the moment). The boys’ toilets have just been refurbished. The headteacher told us that the council decided to go for cubicles (I’m guessing there were some urinals in there before). She said “The council did this just in case there are any plans to make these toilets … [almost imperceptible pause] … mixed sex in the future. I don’t think there’s any chance that will happen any time soon”.

And in that moment I knew this was a woman to be trusted.

everythingcrossed · 16/10/2021 18:27

Good luck. Please keep us updated with what the HT says (I suspect that she will read the room and blame government policy).