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Academic Freedom, Harassment and GC academics - ask me any questions

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ProfJoPhoenix · 15/10/2021 09:49

Hi Mumsnetters

Jo Phoenix here - as in the academic cancelled by Essex and harassed by colleagues at the OU. I decided to join mumsnet because I know that several women here are supportive of what it is that we (GC academics) are going through and dealing with. I thought I would start a thread - a sort of ask me any question thread. I'll be making an announcement on twitter (@JoPhoenix1) on Sunday morning that you might find interesting. What's happened to Kathleen Stock has left all of us reeling and I am going to do something that, I hope, will help. Watch this space.

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EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 17/10/2021 20:39

@Blessex

Not sure about carrots - I think there is a dinosaur tree growing in this garden!!!

Are you implying dinosaurs hoard valuable stuff that they can turn into horticultural readies?

SunflowersInTheShade · 17/10/2021 20:38

Those dino eggs are expensive!!

Blessex · 17/10/2021 20:34

Not sure about carrots - I think there is a dinosaur tree growing in this garden!!!

RhymesWithOrange · 17/10/2021 20:15

Over 35k carrots sprouting up in just one day. Awesome. Women are amazing.

MiddlesexGirl · 17/10/2021 17:56

Currently at £32K of an £80K stretch target. Fingers crossed Jo gets all the money she needs to take this on.

EdinburghFeminist · 17/10/2021 15:02

I’ve done a little digging, thanks Jo for doing this, we will all benefit from your stand.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 17/10/2021 14:32

Does someone identify as a Vogon?

GCmiddle · 17/10/2021 14:30

Jo has now raised over £25k - a great show of support!

I still don't know how to join the OU GC research network. Does anyone know? I have emailed Jo at the OU, but I hadn't realised she was off work. I have emailed one of the other co-founders, Jon Pike, but not heard back. I am a gender critical academic and want to join!

Piapiano · 17/10/2021 14:29

Wow, that poetry is something else. Maybe some blue tac got stuck in the computer keyboard?

I can see why Jo might be described as an intellectual threat after reading that...

RainbowCrossing · 17/10/2021 13:54

Does someone identify as a Vogon?

Chrysanthemum5 · 17/10/2021 13:41

I've done some gardening. And I know there will be many women who can't donate but would like to - so I doubled my donation to include you.

There have been times in my life when I couldn't afford to help out causes I cared for, and even now as the main wage earner in my family I can't be as openly GC as I'd like as I can't risk losing my job or being bullied out of the university. So @ProfJoPhoenix thank you for taking a stand and know that many women (more than can afford to contribute) are standing behind you

foxgoosefinch · 17/10/2021 13:34

One can only hope so, it might give the thing more depth and complexity

YetAnotherSpartacus · 17/10/2021 13:33

Myn pinke scrunchie

Is that a euphemism?

foxgoosefinch · 17/10/2021 13:33

*professional ffs! The style is clearly wearing off on me

foxgoosefinch · 17/10/2021 13:32

@YetAnotherSpartacus

Middling Anguish

Excellent

It surely has a claim to be the worst poetry I’ve ever read, and I have a professions interest in that so that’s saying something

“Myn pinke scrunchie”

JesusSendFloods · 17/10/2021 12:24

Thank you for your bravery and candour, Jo. Pledged.

OperationDessertStorm · 17/10/2021 12:02

Little shovelful from here too. Sorry you’ve had to go through all this and thank you.

GCAcademic · 17/10/2021 12:01

I've donated, Jo. Absolutely sickened by the details in your statement on the crowdfunder. What an utterly toxic environment.

Blessex · 17/10/2021 11:40

Pledged Jo. Best of luck x

FortunesFavour · 17/10/2021 11:40

Hi Jo 👋.

I’ve just noticed this thread after singing your praises on another. I’ll repeat what I said there…you are a brave and brilliant woman. Thank you for facing up to your harassers and I’m sorry it has taken such a toll on you.

I will be following your case and cheering you on, plus I stand ready to keep digging until you get the justice you deserve x

PS is there something about the name Jo that encourages strength and bravery? You stand in excellent company.

sTRUTHiomimus · 17/10/2021 11:39

I wouldn’t want to break the MN rules about posting a link to a fundraiser and get my post deleted.

So I’ll just say that there’s been an impressive amount of gardening done this morning, with the target of 15,000 spring bulbs planted being achieved in a few hours. It’s now at 16,000 and going up every few minutes.

Good luck Jo.

Datun · 17/10/2021 11:34

Bloody hell. I've just read Jo's statement on her crowd funder.

What a disgrace the OU is. And the UCU.

Someone said that it doesn't take many people in an organisation to alter the ethos. I sincerely hope that is true, because surely to God, there can't be this many raging misogynists out there.

Digging for Jo.

AlfonsoTheDinosaur · 17/10/2021 11:32

@YetAnotherSpartacus

I'm increasingly troubled by the disproportionate weight given to lived experience that may not, in any way, be representative of a majority of people with a condition but, rather, be the small number of edge cases with a dominant narrative

Yeah, you've nailed it. Or the cases whose narrative happens to fit the academic's hobby-horse (which is often about their own lived experience). So many PhD theses now are autobiographical and take stances not derived from evidence but from the researcher's own lived experience - that through the Ph.D. they then obtain the credentials to indoctrinate teach.

There may or may not be a former academic at a college in the south of the US who rode that particular hobbyhorse.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 17/10/2021 11:26

@MiddlesexGirl

Crowd funding link confirmed here: twitter.com/JoPhoenix1/status/1449648472748142598?t=qPzqXhHdnkHT51vQz4K3tw&s=19 Currently just shy of £14K

Now into the stretch.

MiddlesexGirl · 17/10/2021 11:17

Crowd funding link confirmed here:
twitter.com/JoPhoenix1/status/1449648472748142598?t=qPzqXhHdnkHT51vQz4K3tw&s=19
Currently just shy of £14K

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