LGB Alliance Conference 21 Oct

The article is (obviously as it’s from PN) very anti-GC and LGBAlliance, and is quite inflammatory. I was just wondering what occurred from the other perspective, as no altercations we’re mentioned, and often the view from certain ideologies is seeing mountains when there are only dust bunnies.

going into the women's toilets, as it turned out to record women without their consent, was fairly goady behaviour.

What's the evidence of them recording in the toilets?

Well going into the women's toilets to record women without their consent is voyeurism and predatory. As we as being illegal and exactly the reason why most women don't want males in their private spaces.

This is the charmer who bought a ticket to the conference so they could use the ladies and secretly record audio in there.
I didn't see or hear the altercation, nor did I notice the specific MTF trans person, but there were quite a lot of gnc people in attendance, and the special inner identity didn't stand out. As I understand it, they were challenged by a young autistic man who I did spend some time with and found as bracingly direct as I have found other autistic young men. I can well believe that he would have pointed out that going into the women's toilets, as it turned out to record women without their consent, was fairly goady behaviour.

This person also made no attempt to listen to the speakers, who talked about some really important topics. Still, at least their ticket paid for their lunch. Childish behaviour like this might impress Cohen & co at Prick News. Grown ups are getting on with more worthwhile things.

Archive link (I hope) <a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20211025164145/www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/10/25/lgb-alliance-conference-trans-jen-ives/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20211025164145/www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/10/25/lgb-alliance-conference-trans-jen-ives/

Was anyone present for this “altercation”, as it is being reported in PN?

A trans woman was called a “homophobic nonce” and a “fking pervert” while attending the conference of anti-trans charity LGB Alliance.

Clip of Rosie. this idea that we have to justify talking about women or women's rights and we're not allowed to without adding other groups, to speak about things only affecting women

great summary littleburn. 2 things struck me from Allisons speech - 1) that gender non-conformity should be celebrated and 2) her tipping point - that we should not be sterilising lesbian and gay children

Yes, it's very clever. It would appear that melding transgenderism into homosexual rights was entirely deliberate, presumably to leverage the collective guilt.

And yes, it's got to be hate speech, hasn't it? Given sexual orientation is a protected characteristic and it's based on sex.

It's blisteringly straightforward.

Thank you for that summary littleburn The impact of collective guilt indeed.

You see the over correction thing in the progressive church circles, too. So guilt ridden by historical homophobia they don't even think twice before signing up to the next Pride brand, and can't bring themselves to examine why or how they've gulped down homophobia 2.0

The over-correction analogy makes perfect sense 👌

the disco was brilliant
It was so nice to be in an actual LGB space, I found myself soaking it up even though I was going to leave at six.
I was thinking hard about what I could actually do to help, after such amazing speakers, that it was hard to get into party mode though. It was lovely to see everyone really enjoying themselves!

I was telling my DH about the Tunnocks thing and he's just come back from an errand with a box of teacakes. Good man.

Thanks for that summary, littleburn - very helpful!

As though the Repent MF clip wasn't entertaining enough to make it a good week it is now my dinosaur duty to eat more tunnocks this is amazing.

Particularly with the helpful s'mores tip.

Alas Tunnock's tea cakes are out of stock on the Asda website, so I had to order 2 packs of Tunnock's caramel wafer biscuits instead.

It was an amazing conference! The speakers were being filmed so hopefully a lot of the speeches will be available on line soon. Allison Bailey and Jo Bartosch were particularly inspiring, but everyone was excellent.

My take aways from it are:

• Keep coming back to the law - it's gender reassignment not gender identity and GC views are a protected belief

• Several speakers mentioned collective guilt and the need to make amends for the past leading to an uncritical 'over correction'. So the Tories want to distance themselves from being the party of Section 28, the police from their previous treatment of the LGB community, straight people in general from the homophobia of society in the past. This creates the perfect atmosphere for Stonewall to push their agenda as 'what the good people do'

• this is a LGB human rights issue - 'without sex there is no same sex attraction' The shock and anger of the LGB community that they are again having to fight fights they thought were won was palpable yesterday. That gay men and lesbians are losing their livelihoods for standing up for same sex attraction in 2021 is shameful. We need to stand together on this and make people aware that both women and LGB people are being thrown to the wolves on this issue.

• the people who want to 'do good' (as per the collective guilt/over-correction idea) but don't particularly care about or minimise the impact on women's rights (because misogyny) may take more notice of the impact on the rights of LGB people and the charge of homophobia

Also - the disco was brilliant (and the pub after!) and I will always love James Dreyfus for refusing to believe I'm 46

I'm feelingvthe need for a Tunnock's Teacake t shirt now.

I'm loving tunnocks tea cakes are transphobic, my knitting group was full of the wokist of the woke and they all used to have a thing about tunnocks tea cakes and how wonderful they were. They'll be in full meltdown.

This is what it’s based on 🤭

m.youtube.com/watch?v=rSeIbOrc4K4

If you follow the Twitter link and just keep scrolling down you’ll see it within one of the replies.