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14th October 'Nolan Investigates' podcast - Stonewall?

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Helleofabore · 13/10/2021 11:11

This sounds interesting.

A special ‘Nolan Investigates’ podcast drops tomorrow afternoon on @BBCSounds. An 18 month investigation into the influence of a lobby group on public bodies throughout the UK. More details in the morning

It seems to be about Stonewall.

Anyone know more about it?

There is some chatter about it on Twitter.

twitter.com/stephennolan/status/1448052827088109568?s=21

twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1448205588253618176?s=21

(Tweet from JCJ says:

Okay, at last, here it is.

The BBC Ulster documentary on the influence of Stonewall on public life in the UK.

Many GC women have been interviewed for this.

Let's take the lid off this thing shall we?

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dolorsit · 13/10/2021 22:16

I have to admit I have had to pause listening to episode 4, just after the explanation that having green can be an example of queer coding.

Obviously unaware of punks, goths and alternatives.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 13/10/2021 22:06

Hurcum is Ep4 "Being non-binary in the UK"

CinderFuckingRe11a · 13/10/2021 22:03

@BoreOfWhabylon

It explains why there has been a distinct shift, certainly on BBC Radio 4, recently. Justin Fletcher and Emma Barnett in particular have been doing superbly, asking the hard questions.

I just hope Jenni Murray is feeling vindicated.

Mr Tumble??
vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 13/10/2021 22:03

It's like Sasha Baron Cohen getting politicians to say and do WHAT on film.

I'm sure this is a "soft launch" of examining the WHOLE thing, someone at the BBC has had a letter from Baroness Nicholson's finding from her webinairs, has actually heard the issue, and absolutely shit their pants.

Angrysaurus · 13/10/2021 22:02

@MrsOvertonsWindow

Listening to the Hurcum episode - he's talking complete bollox. Constantly hesitating as he has to catch himself to stop saying the words man or woman. It's actually sad as he's so self important and self obsessed but has nothing of any substance to say. Tragic.
Which episode is that please?
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 13/10/2021 21:53

I'm loving listening to Hurcum. It's really illuminating, and just letting Hurcum talk with the occasional gentle prompt is just genius.

IvyTwines2 · 13/10/2021 21:47

Ok, this sounds good! Maybe the self-ID comments on Radio 5 a few weeks ago were him not showing his hand till this was ready...

Mollyollydolly · 13/10/2021 21:44

I used to chat to Stephen occasionally when he worked at Salford. I'd shake his hand tonight .. dynamite. I'm so delighted to hear this on the BBC.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/10/2021 21:42

Listening to the Hurcum episode - he's talking complete bollox. Constantly hesitating as he has to catch himself to stop saying the words man or woman. It's actually sad as he's so self important and self obsessed but has nothing of any substance to say. Tragic.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 13/10/2021 21:26

I very much like the way he keeps saying TRA things to his guests, so that they can demolish them.

BoreOfWhabylon · 13/10/2021 21:25

It explains why there has been a distinct shift, certainly on BBC Radio 4, recently. Justin Fletcher and Emma Barnett in particular have been doing superbly, asking the hard questions.

I just hope Jenni Murray is feeling vindicated.

WarriorN · 13/10/2021 21:24

10!

10 episodes!

Fooking ell.

BettyFilous · 13/10/2021 21:21

I’m amazed this is on the BBC, but bloody hell!

WarriorN · 13/10/2021 21:19

@TonyThreePies

On the BBC?
Late to the thread;

I checked 3 times that was listening to bbc sounds just now.

I'm particularly delighted that children's tv programmes were mentioned.

It's clear the bbc has been slowly distancing themselves from things like mermaids etc.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 13/10/2021 21:04

@PenguindreamsofDraco

As a fully paid up not self identifying deaf woman I would be thrilled and grateful if anyone could do a transcript.
This doesn't work for everyone and it's not as good as a transcript but do you use Chrome's caption function with podcasts (I find the captions are decent).

I've also been known to turn on the 'dictate' function for MS Word and use that to create a transcript (can need a fair amount of work but I'm used to reading transcripts full of errors).

ShamedBySiri · 13/10/2021 21:00

An on line text piece will follow according to twitter @PenguindreamsofDraco

nauticant · 13/10/2021 20:50

We all know that David Bell has a good grasp of the issue and a good ability to explain what he knows but when he's explaining it to a newbie who is actively asking questions ... well, it's quite something.

Ridcully82 · 13/10/2021 20:45

@sashagabadon

Thinking about it, I doubt it was a long con/ hiding his views. More he hadn’t given it that much thought ( like most people) and then the penny dropped whilst investigating? And then realising what a potentially massive story it is like Kids Company and once you see it, you can’t unsee it ( like Kids Company)?
That makes sense:so could he be the Canary in the coal mine,and other heads might pop over the media parapet now?🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 I fear the hope I'm feeling
PenguindreamsofDraco · 13/10/2021 20:41

As a fully paid up not self identifying deaf woman I would be thrilled and grateful if anyone could do a transcript.

sashagabadon · 13/10/2021 20:35

Thinking about it, I doubt it was a long con/ hiding his views. More he hadn’t given it that much thought ( like most people) and then the penny dropped whilst investigating? And then realising what a potentially massive story it is like Kids Company and once you see it, you can’t unsee it ( like Kids Company)?

Littlesilverwatch · 13/10/2021 20:33

I'm on episode 3, excellent stuff so far.

My only criticism is that they're not asking what 'living as a woman' actually entails.

(Because I'm almost certainly not doing it right.😉).

hoteltango · 13/10/2021 20:30

[quote Jaysmith71]For anyone unable to listen online, or if you want it portable, here is the whole series in MP3 Format on my Google Drive:

drive.google.com/drive/folders/100DGRXY3IqMgyGrt-pS8_cxOcRcb2OkM?usp=sharing[/quote]
Thanks, I've downloaded this. If no (official?) transcript emerges, I can start on a quick'n'dirty transcript tomorrow.

RainbowCrossing · 13/10/2021 20:24

@nauticant

If that's the reason they decided to unguardedly engage OldCrone, then I would expect all hell to break loose when word spreads about this podcast.
MmmmHmmmmm

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nauticant · 13/10/2021 20:23

"What does GenderFuck mean and should they be protected according to the law?"

nauticant · 13/10/2021 20:21

If that's the reason they decided to unguardedly engage OldCrone, then I would expect all hell to break loose when word spreads about this podcast.