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The impact of TOJ on The Guardian sales

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secular111 · 12/10/2021 15:13

Interesting and recent (i.e. today) Twitter thread asking;

Has anyone else stopped buying the @guardian because of Owen Jones?

Lots of different opinions. I struggled to find any comments in support of him, quite a lot who won't touch The Guardian because of him, others who won't read it for other reasons and plenty who read The Guardian still but skip reading TOJ's 'work'.

The Marketing Director of The Guardian is Kate Davies. I wonder if she has ever identified TOJ as a bit of a liability for The Guardian/her job?

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WinterTrees · 12/10/2021 17:38

That's awful. I'd seen the Mini Misogynist's tweet to the mother worried about her child, but hadn't seen Ash Sarkar's.

Whatever happened to #BeKind? I thought that was one of the core mantras of the rainbow brigade? Had it been replaced by #LockYourAccountIfYouDontWantAbuse?

IvyTwines2 · 12/10/2021 17:32

And then there was this follow-up gem from Ash Sarkar today. Women who go out unlocked on social media are asking for it, apparently.

The impact of TOJ on The Guardian sales
WorriedWishingWell · 12/10/2021 17:28

After 4 decades of being a Guardian reader I've stopped, because of OJ, because of their whole understanding of what a woman is, their treatment of Suzanne Moore, their whole understanding of what a woman is, because I don't think they want to cater to the interests and concerns of a 60 something woman.

ScreamingMeMesaur · 12/10/2021 17:23

@nauticant

Just so that people coming to this thread know what's being discussed in terms of instigating pile-ons:

twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1447547947697283079

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1447551649619267586

This is what journalists are these days.

How many children do Ash or Owen have 0again....?

Nasty little wankers the pair of them.

donquixotedelamancha · 12/10/2021 17:19

I reckon Mole at the counter can explain it best

That is brilliant.

He's also known as Talcum X

I think what annoys him most is 'the YouTuber Owen Jones'.

MassiveHoard · 12/10/2021 17:18

TOJ is a bully. He should be denied access to social media platforms unless he changes his vile behaviour. I'm not fond of cancel culture but if you behave like he does there should be sanctions.

TheRaisinGirls · 12/10/2021 17:12

I don't buy it now. Partly because of OJ but so many other reasons too eg their treatment of Suzanne Moore, their occasionally anti-women stance, and the general direction of travel towards slightly hysterical journalism, of which I suppose OJ is one facet. I am cautiously starting to warm to the Observer again, having said that.

nauticant · 12/10/2021 17:12

Just so that people coming to this thread know what's being discussed in terms of instigating pile-ons:

twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1447547947697283079

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1447551649619267586

This is what journalists are these days.

Tedimhoardingrightsosaur · 12/10/2021 17:09

@GothicaAutistica

Ah, thank you *@secular111*.

I thought it stood for twat!

He's also known as Talcum X
Grumpyosaurus · 12/10/2021 17:08

I have a list as long as your arm of reasons why I don't read the Guardian anymore.

Talcum X is just one of them.

Bolognesedoc · 12/10/2021 16:56

I stopped my sub because of OJ months ago, and told them why. Received no reply.
Me too!

ScreamingMeMesaur · 12/10/2021 16:52

I didn't know he'd been bullying (another) woman on twitter. What a shitbag.

GothicaAutistica · 12/10/2021 16:47

I'm not being flippant, by the way. That's what immediately sprung to mind when I saw it.

GothicaAutistica · 12/10/2021 16:44

Ah, thank you @secular111.

I thought it stood for twat!

NowtSalamander · 12/10/2021 16:41

Hmm. Sadly think it’s the opposite. The American market is much bigger than us and they seem to love him - think it’s probably because the left over there is becoming more of a mirror of Trump and therefore his bullying goes down well.

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secular111 · 12/10/2021 16:37

@GothicaAutistica

Dare I ask what the T in front of his initials stands for? Grin

And yes, I can't be bothered with the Guardian newspaper (even though it usually isn't bad) because of him. It isn't simply that I disagree with his opinions - I can live with that. It's the fact that he's such a sanctimonious prick who enjoys stirring the pot. Then, when it all blows up in his face, he plays the victim as though it's a proper instrument.

The 'T' is for 'Tiny'. Just a variation on LOJ ('Little OJ') except it appears he is shrinking.

I reckon Mole at the counter can explain it best;

twitter.com/moleatthedoor/status/1440348385475633157

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GothicaAutistica · 12/10/2021 16:10

Yes, agree with you @Mollyollydolly.

GothicaAutistica · 12/10/2021 16:09

Dare I ask what the T in front of his initials stands for? Grin

And yes, I can't be bothered with the Guardian newspaper (even though it usually isn't bad) because of him. It isn't simply that I disagree with his opinions - I can live with that. It's the fact that he's such a sanctimonious prick who enjoys stirring the pot. Then, when it all blows up in his face, he plays the victim as though it's a proper instrument.

Mollyollydolly · 12/10/2021 16:08

What Owen and Ash did yesterday was loathsome. Didn't think I could have a lower opinion of them, but after yesterday I have. They make me feel physically sick. They are the school bully we all still remember decades later. A despicable pair of piranha's.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/10/2021 16:00

I noticed that he and Ash S instigated a bullying pile on against a woman concerned about her daughter. They will all their media power and privilege deliberately set some of their unhinged followers on this poor woman.

Toomuchtea · 12/10/2021 15:43

I stopped my sub because of OJ months ago, and told them why. Received no reply.