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Jesus, this is the most disturbing thing i may have ever read, on so many levels

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JustcameoutGC · 09/10/2021 07:22

This is the story of Barbie Kardashian, a violent and disturbed young male. Currently in a womens prison in ireland. This comes with pretty much every trigger warning there is

www.womenarehuman.com/transgender-teen-charged-with-making-death-threats-against-two-individuals/

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CreepingDeath · 10/10/2021 21:02

Yes, reducing the age of consent to 16 is worrying. Why the rush? Usually legislation takes ages and has many delays, especially in this country. But this issue has been fast-tracked.

I remember looking up a website that showed that TENI had dozens of meetings with government officials over the years under the guise of 'trans health'. I guess this is what they were pushing for.

I don't believe it's a coincidence either that our Hate Crime legislation is being 'updated'. I believe it is so that we are punished if we misgender someone, and cannot speak about this issue openly.

The govt are also trying to introduce a ban on 'Conversion Therapy' which will effectively stop therapists from discouraging children from going down the path to transition.

It's so draconian!

FionaMacCool · 10/10/2021 15:30

That's about the size of it @thepiratequeen A good summary.

thepiratequeen · 10/10/2021 15:17

I have been looking for the original thread about this from last year but can't find it (? deleted).

It was reported on that thread that BK was in state care (following a horrific childhood) when BK became friends with another teenager who was transgender, aged around 15. BK had already displayed violent tendencies at this stage.

After this BK expressed a desire to become female.

An assessment by Tavistock seemed to express concerns that BK was not genuine and answers given in the assessment appeared rehearsed.

Regardless of whether BK was genuine or not BK simply had to wait until their 18th birthday and simply sign a form. After that no further questions could be asked regarding how genuine BK was or not.

BK, who had already violently assaulted women and who was considered dangerous to women, was now a woman thanks to Ireland's Self ID laws.

What lessons has Ireland learned from this saga?

Suppress the story☑️
Reduce the age of Self ID to 16☑️
Teach gender ideology in schools. ☑️

andyoldlabour · 10/10/2021 14:21

Having looked at the archived version, all I can say, is that the legal justice system in Ireland is totally corrupt. Not only is he male, but he is a male psycho who advertises the fact that he wants to kill women. So, what do they do? They have actually made it possible for him to act out his sick plans.

JustcameoutGC · 10/10/2021 13:39

I found thw archived article. Have they learned nothing from the Magdalen laundries? Those poor poor women in the jail. They must be fucking terrified.

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WarriorN · 10/10/2021 13:25

Ovarit was helpful here.

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 10/10/2021 12:45

I can confirm that it's really easy to find.

TedImgoingmad · 10/10/2021 12:25

Well, if anyone wants to read it, it's archived so it's out there - in the public domain, MN take note.

TedImgoingmad · 10/10/2021 12:23

Incredible! I have just this second posted a link to the censored Gript article on BK, and it goes straight to the above message. Same thing happened 2 weeks ago.

TedImgoingmad · 10/10/2021 12:22

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This post has been hidden until the MNHQ team can have a look at it.

TedImgoingmad · 10/10/2021 12:15

I posted a link about the suppression of reporting on BK, at the behest of TUSLA - that'll be one government agency interfering in the business of another - a couple of weeks ago. It was deleted. MN didn't say why they deleted it.

groundcontroltomontydon · 10/10/2021 10:33

We have replaced the Roman church with the self id church here.
This - history repeating itself, no lessons learned, mindset remains the same, state continues to outsource/abdicate its responsibilities to the detriment of women and children (and the most vulnerable in particular)

LucysSkyDiamonds · 10/10/2021 09:09

I wrote to every TD when this story came out and there was tumbleweed from all but two, both FF backbenchers who seemed stunned but nothing more has come of it. We have replaced the Roman church with the self id church here.

AFAIK, the prison governor doesn't have any choice about accepting those the courts send to them, it is the judge who makes the decision where a prisoner is detained (although I'm aware that contradicts the quote from the presiding judge in this case).

TENI seems to have tendrils bloody everywhere.

NiceGerbil · 10/10/2021 04:26

Sorry seen that covered!

I still can't believe any of it. At all.

The efforts the govt went to, to hide it all from the public.

WHY? Just why FFS.

NiceGerbil · 10/10/2021 04:24

And yes the sites with info including psychiatrist report which was. Extreme. Person massive danger to women. No remorse empathy. And loads more.

It all vanished. From when released from ?care and police warning went out onwards. Irish govt site for all trial judgements did not include.

Vanished because govt dept wrote to all sites with info saying take down or legal action. Seen screenshot of letter.

Too sinister to believe but happened.

It seems to be back now. I wonder what changed.

NiceGerbil · 10/10/2021 04:19

Yep. A full on actual terrifying person.

Def in Limerick women's.

Recent report on trans people in Irish prison. Didn't name names. Cited that two TW in Limerick.

Conclusion. They were not being reasonably treated being kept separated.

Needs to change.

Fuck them.

TurquoiseBaubles · 09/10/2021 21:14

Tusla and TENI appear to be working hand in hand.

Every time I read a statement about "transchildren" their comments are identical, which is weird as TENI is a so-called trans charity and Tusla are allegedly the state child protection and family support agency.

Instructions appear to be travelling the wrong way in this relationship Hmm

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 09/10/2021 20:10

TUSLA sent letters to some media outlets threatening them to stop using BKs name in articles and to remove reference to them.
Yet BK is an adult and TUSLA are a child protection agency...

There was a recent prison inspection done in prisons here, the Office of Inspections said that these males should be allowed to choose the "gender" of the person who searches them. In Ireland, female prison officers are not required to search men.
BK and a paedophile, who sexually abused his step son for 2 years and got a GRC when he was caught, are housed in Limerick women's.

lilmishap · 09/10/2021 17:59

He's fucking bragged about it on his twitter. FIVE months???

DdraigGoch · 09/10/2021 17:57

Mr Kardashian expressed regret at having failed to kill the victim, telling gardaí that it had been “music to her ears to hear [the care worker] scream and cry.” He served five months in detention for the crime.

Only five months when he had effectively admitted Attempted Murder?

bellinisurge · 09/10/2021 17:47

Gender woo is even more entrenched in the Irish media/judicial system because self ID was snuck in as law at the same time as the laudable constitutional change allowing equal marriage. Barbie Kardashian should be a name and outrageous story that is circulated in the same way Karen White is circulated here in UK but I think the law forbids it.
The Twitter feed The Countess Didn't Vote For This recently published a Irish survey which matches pretty much the feeling here. Once people realise that self-ID includes intact males getting whatever the feck they want, the "live and let live" attitude changes. Because the second half of that sentence is compromised when "penis-havers" get automatic access to vulnerable women.

CreepingDeath · 09/10/2021 17:09

wheneveryousaymyname

This is the response I received when I enquired about it -

The Irish Prison Service is responsible for the safe and secure custody of all persons held in prison and have previous experience dealing with such committals. Where a court makes an order committing a person to a prison, the Irish Prison Service must accept that person into custody in whichever prison is specified by the court. All prisoners committed to Prison are accommodated in accordance with their legal gender.

On arrival to prison, all prisoners are brought to the reception/committal unit of the prison, where there is an opportunity to provide details as part of the committal interview process and this information is recorded. The assessment of the prisoner’s needs may require a Prison Governor to consider the biological gender, legal gender, gender identity, transgender, gender expression, sexual orientation or gender recognition legislation.

nothingcomestonothing · 09/10/2021 14:02

If I recall correctly, when BK was at large last year, police press releases were warning members of the public that a highly dangerous teenage girl with a history of attacking women was at large and should not be approached. Because clearly, validating BK's identity was much more important than giving women in the street accurate information on who they should be on the look out to avoid Hmm

PickAChew · 09/10/2021 13:49

That is sickening reading. That young man is damaged, probably beyond help, and should never be allowed anywhere near a woman, again, never mind locked up in a female prison.

TheAntiGardener · 09/10/2021 13:33

Like pps, two impressions: firstly, that the article is profoundly tragic reading. A young life utterly destroyed before it begins.

And the horror that the skewed prioritising of trans concerns over female prisoner safety is not only putting people at risk unnecessarily, but sending a message to women everywhere that our safety is unimportant.

The most frightening thing is how twaw is making people on authority blind to how women are the targets of dangerous individuals, regardless of how they identify. How many female offenders have a clear orientation towards visiting serious harm on women specifically? How is it that anyone can look at this individual’s past and see them as another female inmate whose proper place is in custody with other females?

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