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Jesus, this is the most disturbing thing i may have ever read, on so many levels

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JustcameoutGC · 09/10/2021 07:22

This is the story of Barbie Kardashian, a violent and disturbed young male. Currently in a womens prison in ireland. This comes with pretty much every trigger warning there is

www.womenarehuman.com/transgender-teen-charged-with-making-death-threats-against-two-individuals/

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NiceGerbil · 13/10/2021 23:22

CreepingDeath.

I would imagine the reaction of the councillor is due to this sort of thing-

Trans people most oppressed

Loads of fake news, scaremongering about them. From

No evidence of any harm ever because of gender > sex

Big helping of. Don't want to know don't want to hear. Cover ears lalala. Because deep down they know all this is not right and they cannot afford to let that surface. To go against gender > sex. Even inside their own heads. Is way too uncomfortable and risky.

ChristmasPlanning · 13/10/2021 13:45

@MintyCedric

The only place for this individual is high security psychiatric unit.
@MintyCedric

Fully agree

Pucarbuile · 11/10/2021 22:55

I'd happily contribute CreepingDeath even though I fear it would be whispering in a gale for all the attention they would actually pay to it.

CreepingDeath · 11/10/2021 19:23

If anyone else is interested, i'd be up for helping to fund sending every TD a copy of Helen Joyce's Trans book, just like Sex Matters did in the UK.

CreepingDeath · 11/10/2021 19:22

@ScreamingMeMesaur

A Councillor for Limerick, everybody:
What was the article? Was it specifically about BK?

Why would this councillor not believe that this person exists, and is in a women's prison? Has she got her head in the sand completely?

I have also written to my local TDs about this a few times, and received nothing. They don't care, or don't want to see what is happening.

Ah sure it'll be grand Angry. Fuck them all!

JoborPlay · 11/10/2021 19:08

@fournonblondes

So basically a potential serial killer. Should not be in prison but in a hospital. I find this sickening.
Yes, he's clearly an incredibly sick young man.
FionaMacCool · 11/10/2021 14:37

@ScreamingMeMesaur

A Councillor for Limerick, everybody:
@ScreamingMeMesaur, wondrous, isn't it, how women join in with the misogyny. Anyone in possession of basic psychology training knows that members of a less powerful group will identify with their oppressors as a survival strategy.

Some points:

  • this Councillor was not in possession of facts
  • she is a registered Speech & Language Therapist, therefore, supposedly in possession of a critical brain which would should seek out evidence before making assertions
  • she has a degree in Med Science....
  • she complains of misogyny so should be able to connect the dots
www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40698374.html
thepiratequeen · 11/10/2021 13:42

@WarriorNoasaurus

We'd have to rely on more whistleblowing
Considering what happened to Maurice McCabe, responsibility which partly lies with TUSLA, I am not sure too many whistle blowers are likely to come forward. www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20442548.html&ved=2ahUKEwjv3p23sMLzAhVUhVwKHbbyCy8QFnoECAoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw31kOU9LlQyM_EiosJNkAc4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20442548.html&ved=2ahUKEwjv3p23sMLzAhVUhVwKHbbyCy8QFnoECAoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw31kOU9LlQyM_EiosJNkAc4
IrishMna · 11/10/2021 12:16

Am in Ireland and we seem to have our heads in the sand about this. I feel like I’m shouting into the void.

Chatted to a couple of Gardaí about BK and they had no idea. No idea that BK existed or that BK was in Women’s prison.

Totallydefeated · 11/10/2021 11:36

This is one of the most disturbing things I’ve read in a very long time.

Clearly this young person has been grievously harmed themselves, which is absolutely tragic, bury for them ans their victims. It’s a further tragedy waiting to happen that they’re now in a position to grievously harm or kill vulnerable women. I really hope the Irish authorities wake up and see reality before anyone else is harmed. If ur were to happen, it will be with the Irish state being in full knowledge of the risks ans allowing it to happen. And I hope any future victims sue them.

WarriorNoasaurus · 11/10/2021 11:24

We'd have to rely on more whistleblowing

JustcameoutGC · 11/10/2021 09:18

Jesus. That poor kid has been turned into a monster. His father should be locked up alongside him.
I wonder will we ever hear what has been going on inside the prison.

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ScreamingMeMesaur · 11/10/2021 09:06

@NiceGerbil

I can't find the psych report for the court via Google.

Seems maybe some things still vanished.

It was long, detailed and terrifying.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY PLAYING AT?

Some bits and pieces here

twitter.com/STILLTish/status/1311306482412126208?s=20

thepiratequeen · 11/10/2021 08:57

I think that the psychiatric report said that BK had a Psychiatric disorder but it wasn't a disorder that allowed BK to be sectioned.

ScreamingMeMesaur · 11/10/2021 08:48

A Councillor for Limerick, everybody:

Jesus, this is the most disturbing thing i may have ever read, on so many levels
Jesus, this is the most disturbing thing i may have ever read, on so many levels
EmmaGrundyForPM · 11/10/2021 07:47

There is no way BK should be in a women's prison.

He has had a horrendous childhood and needs help. But until he gets that help, women are at risk.

andyoldlabour · 11/10/2021 07:45

NiceGerbil

Believe me, you are not the only sane person who cannot understand. I showed this to my DW yesterday and she couldn't believe it.
It almost feels as if this is some huge experimentConfused

WarriorNoasaurus · 11/10/2021 07:09

When I was Googling, TULSA had received quite a few 'interesting criticisms' here and there. Could be conspiracy etc but it was worrying. There's a fb group with a lot of stuff on it.

NiceGerbil · 11/10/2021 00:39

Just checked. There is a secure MH hosp in Ireland with a high security wing. Courts can be refer there.

So why in the name of fuck is BK not there?

I mean... I can't understand why this individual is being treated in this way.
Women's prison
Media blackouts
Govt dept actively high through the web FFS to find content and sending threatening letters.
Can you even imagine the time and effort going into doing that?!
And the dept that did it had no connection to the situation in any way at all!

What is wrong with them? What is going on FFS?

I mean I doubt it's concern about outcry from trans activists etc because BK is so dangerous even they would pause.

And there is a perfectly suited secure hosp! Where they should OBVIOUSLY be. To protect the public and so BK can get help! Which they so obviously need. Isolated in prison with own thoughts for company sounds like an atrocious idea.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

dottypencilcase · 10/10/2021 23:58

Wtaf?!

TonyThreePies · 10/10/2021 23:48

I remember this from last year. A very disturbed individual with a horrific background. IIRC correctly there was a video posted of BK leaving court (or similar setting) and there were a few teenage girls hanging around cheering BK on. It was chilling.

NiceGerbil · 10/10/2021 23:00

Rather than address BK who needs help and to be kept away from women and girls entirely.

They are focussed on suppressing info. Hiding what's going on. Concealing everything from the press and public. Putting in women's prison.

Incredibly disturbing.

IF (when) BK is allowed to mix at all with female inmates. Women WILL be horrifically attacked. Pretty much immediately I expect.

I hope they aren't having women bring BK food/ take for exercise/ talk to for MH etc. Who the fuck knows?

I can't express enough, and I'm sure you all gather. BK is off the fucking scale terrifying.

Why the hell are they not in a secure mental health unit? Anywhere else but near anyone female ever.

NiceGerbil · 10/10/2021 22:53

I can't find the psych report for the court via Google.

Seems maybe some things still vanished.

It was long, detailed and terrifying.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY PLAYING AT?

NiceGerbil · 10/10/2021 22:52

Re. The vanishing of info on Google.

Gript had the psych resort etc iirc.

They still have many items on bk unavailable (marked censored).

Sept 2020-

'We revealed that Ms. Kardashian, a biological male who has had no gender reassignment, and whose gender dysphoria is disputed by experts in the UK and Ireland, was to be housed in Limerick woman’s prison, with vulnerable women, at her own request.

We further reported on court documents that reveal Ms. Kardashian’s troubling history of violence directed against women, her persistently expressed desire to rape and kill women, and the warning issued nationwide by Gardai about the danger posed by Kardashian to innocent members of the public...

...Today, October 12th, Gript Media was the latest outlet to receive a threatening letter from Tusla, the child and family agency, demanding that we remove all coverage of Ms. Kardashian’s story, on the grounds that publication of the story breaches an order of the high court issued in July 2020.
We shall not be complying, for several reasons.'

NiceGerbil · 10/10/2021 22:46

@andyoldlabour

Having looked at the archived version, all I can say, is that the legal justice system in Ireland is totally corrupt. Not only is he male, but he is a male psycho who advertises the fact that he wants to kill women. So, what do they do? They have actually made it possible for him to act out his sick plans.
The behind the scenes changes to massive things here, kept out of public domain. Are also scandalous.

Male rapists etc have been in with women here, and the policy remains even after sex offences committed against women in prison.

It's not just Ireland.

BK is away from the others for now. Recent official report says that needs to change. Report was including Limerick and cited the 2 TW in there- one BK for sure. And was very concerned about the impact on them of being segregated etc.

For actual fucks sake.

Women are nothing really.

This is a bona fide sociopathic individual. Who has a focus/ interest/ drive to harm rape and kill women. They do not hide it.

Psychiatrist report said the ONLY time BK showed any interest/ emotion was when relating the attacks on women they had carried out. Became engaged, passionate. Joyful. No remorse. At all. Wanted to do more.

They had a totally horrific childhood, just beyond appalling.

Attitude to women/ girls was extreme from iirc age 8 or similar.

BK should not be in prison. Let alone women's.

BK needs to be in an institution like Broadmoor. For the pathologically dangerous criminals. Whose psyche is such that rehabilitation is just supremely totally unlikely.

And where in England/ Wales at least.

As not prison. It's not a sentence. They stay as long as deemed a risk. And that's for their whole life if needs be.

WTAF do Ireland think they are doing here.

This person is proper hardcore USA horror film stuff of nightmares.

And that in slightly different terms. Is what psychiatrists have said, care workers have known. The police knew.

In this case. It's not hyperbole. It's the real thing.

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