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Netflix urged to take down Dave Chapelle’s show after accusations of ‘anti-LGBT diatribes’

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ItsRainingProstateOwners · 07/10/2021 16:50

news.sky.com/story/netflix-urged-to-pull-down-dave-chappelles-new-show-after-accusations-of-anti-lgbtq-diatribes-12428009

Says he is “team TERF” and backs JK Rowling.

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Couchbettato · 07/10/2021 23:04

The fact he said gender is a fact and not sex is a fact makes me believe he doesn't actually know what he's talking about at all.

In his set he said women look at Transwomen like black people look at blackface, and they get upset because it's mockery... I mean. Yeah, kinda see where he was going with that. Transwomen are the epitomy of harmful female sexist stereotypes, but we're not just upset at that.

We're upset because it's a full safeguarding issue! Because sexual predators sit next to little girls in a spa and little girls get called bigots for not wanting to see a semi erect penis in women's spaces. We're mad because for every time someone says It Never Happens, guess what, it happens.

I know he can't really convey all of that on set. But how can you fundamentally call yourself a feminist if you think that the reason we're upset is simply because we're being mocked?

Nellodee · 07/10/2021 22:42

I think Chapelle is a hugely unpleasant man. He offends me as well, so I have sympathy with this complaint. I wouldn’t want Jim Davidson on Netflix and I think he’s about as funny and as repulsive.

ScreamingMeMe · 07/10/2021 22:22

I haven't watched it yet but I will. I watched a King Critical video on the trans section, and I didn't see anything that would lead to trans people being murdered, but of course that's the claim that's being made by twitter TRAs. I think they may just open some lore eyes.

lilmishap · 07/10/2021 22:17

Pretty telling that there's no outrage for the minutes he spent joking about beating a woman.

FromEden · 07/10/2021 21:53

He didn't talk about his friend Daphne at the show I was at though. Sad story.

FromEden · 07/10/2021 21:51

I saw him live a few months ago and much of it was the same as this Netflix special except he said even more that would get the transactivists up in arms. Everyones phones were taken and locked away though, so no evidence. When he kept saying "gender", I wanted to shout out, "it's SEX ffs"

lilmishap · 07/10/2021 21:45

D'oh I was on the kids profile

lilmishap · 07/10/2021 21:43

I can't find it on Netflix.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 07/10/2021 21:42

Planning to watch it tomorrow night. Wouldn't have been on my radar otherwise

Not gonna lie there have been some moments when ive looked like this 😳

But its well worth a watch and i have laughed and,as others have said, its very moving at the end

SirSamuelVimes · 07/10/2021 21:37

@RufustheBadgeringReindeer

And the thing is dh saw this and i said…yeah people are trying to cancel him, lets watch it

Wouldn’t have put it on at all in ‘normal’ circumstances

Planning to watch it tomorrow night. Wouldn't have been on my radar otherwise.
RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 07/10/2021 21:34

And the thing is dh saw this and i said…yeah people are trying to cancel him, lets watch it

Wouldn’t have put it on at all in ‘normal’ circumstances

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 07/10/2021 21:16

@littlbrowndog

Me too 🤣🤣🤣
Same
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beastlyslumber · 07/10/2021 19:38

He was like, you have to look at it from women's point of view. That surprised and impressed me.

beastlyslumber · 07/10/2021 19:37

Aw that was great. Very funny and very moving. It was surprisingly validating to hear him saying "If I was a woman, I'd be mad."

BelleHathor · 07/10/2021 19:32

As Chappelle said a few years ago:
‘I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?’ Simple really 🤔

CrumpetShaw · 07/10/2021 19:15

I watched it yesterday. He is definitely not reverent to gender ideology, but taking the section overall (which is about 20 mins at the end) it's empathic really. Which was the point he was making. It's worth watching. I felt quite moved at one point. Yes he uses the word gender meaning biological sex I'm sure: which is a bit muddling.

TanquerayTickles · 07/10/2021 19:14

If they're worried about Dave Chappelle they're going to lose their collective shit when they see Ricky Gervais next Netflix special!

I went to see his Human Nature tour last week and he went IN on the absurdity of it all, pointing out all the obvious and ridiculous pitfalls in a comedy fashion.

It's being filmed for Netflix and is his next special so there will be meltdowns everywhere. You can't cancel Gervais!

littlbrowndog · 07/10/2021 19:05

Me too 🤣🤣🤣

MellieBellie · 07/10/2021 19:04

I think this was very calculated on Chappelle's part. I've been following his career for a while now & he's touched on it in the past. He knew he was about to set off a huge shitstorm and I think the timing was deliberate. This was the last of a 3 special deal that was worth $60m. He'll never need to work again. He's comedy's version of JK Rowling. He's too rich and successful to cancel.

beastlyslumber · 07/10/2021 19:01

I'm watching it just now. It's very offensive and very funny indeed.

Diaryofamadwoman · 07/10/2021 18:54

My lecturer discussed this today to highlight the complexities of power structures. Uni might not be quite so bad this year

SpindleWhirl · 07/10/2021 18:54

That crap now passes for Guardian journalism, doesn't it? Characterising a famous talented person as, "XYZ, who has previously been accused of transphobia ...", without any context, right of reply, counter-balance or sense of journalistic impartiality.

I mean, anyone could have been accused of the nebulous "transphobia" on twitter. Just get your mate in Lonely Hearts to tweet it at them.

It's hardly Pulitzer prize-winning stuff. It's shit journalism.

BraveBananaBadge · 07/10/2021 18:35

Ah, two stars from comedy critic Brian Logan, who has accused someone of transphobia before (Robert Webb, maybe?) iirc, so has form.

Interesting intro in the Graun's piece about the furore (not by Logan):

"Dave Chappelle’s latest Netflix special is facing a wave of intense backlash after the comedian once again made jokes directed toward the LGBTQ+ community and defended the author JK Rowling, who has been previously accused of transphobia."

So they consider the top line, and the thing at the heart of the backlash, his support for JKR? Oh do fuck off.

lilmishap · 07/10/2021 18:24

I thought Netflix already took down a show and then reinstated it?