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Are the BBC about to leave Stonewall?

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RoyalCorgi · 07/10/2021 14:16

According to ex-BBC staffer Ben Hunte, yes:

www.vice.com/en/article/akgxm5/bbc-expected-to-quit-stonewalls-lgbtq-diversity-programme

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ArabellaScott · 07/10/2021 17:10

It's astounding. Time is fleeting.

Madness takes its toll.

catzwhiskas · 07/10/2021 17:01

Agree with you Shedbuilder ...also applies to some of the presenters on Today , who are questioning the politicians very carefully these days.

Artichokeleaves · 07/10/2021 16:53

"No" = super scary anti-trans horror show.

You really get the feeling that there are people in this movement who have been so sheltered that they have no idea what any of these words actually mean.

In the next few months, with many people in the UK starting to look at major challenges with being able to turn the heating on and afford to live, and experiencing real, immediate, actual problems, patience is going to get a lot shorter.

WomaninBoots · 07/10/2021 16:46

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel

I find it hard to get my head round people believing trans are the most marginalised group - but ok, if you have no experience with poverty or disability you might possibly come to that conclusion.

What I really can’t get though is how anyone can believe that now is an extra dark period for trans people with lots more transphobia than there used to be. It’s not like trans people were widely accepted a few years ago and nobody was ever rude or mocking about them. Historically it just makes no sense whatsoever.

People have started to say "no" even more loudly and firmly.

It's a tantrum. Hyperbolic histrionic fit at the thought of not getting everything they want even though they can't tell you what it actually is that they want....

"No" = super scary anti-trans horror show.

NutellaEllaElla · 07/10/2021 16:40

They really need to get a hefty dose of perspective on this. It's not Nigeria.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 07/10/2021 16:39

I find it hard to get my head round people believing trans are the most marginalised group - but ok, if you have no experience with poverty or disability you might possibly come to that conclusion.

What I really can’t get though is how anyone can believe that now is an extra dark period for trans people with lots more transphobia than there used to be. It’s not like trans people were widely accepted a few years ago and nobody was ever rude or mocking about them. Historically it just makes no sense whatsoever.

lazylinguist · 07/10/2021 16:39

How disingenuous of these drama llamas to pretend that the only two choices are either continuing to line Stonewall's voluminous pockets or suddenly deciding to be raging bigots, and to claim they're worried that by ditching Stonewall the BBC is about to embrace a new policy of homophobia and anti-transness! Utter bollocks.

Artichokeleaves · 07/10/2021 16:39

Unfortunately, and I keep coming back to this, once you're talking to someone who believes that reality is a subjective thing selected from the facts you like on one matter, and that anyone not enabling you to do this is bad, there's not really much point in expecting them to set aside their alternative facts on any other matter.

The thing is, we can't have a world where some people make up reality and demand that everyone else obeys and believes them unconditionally. And it is important to remember that mental health is strongly to do with the ability to cope with reality as it is.

BettyFilous · 07/10/2021 16:38

Someone under LOJ’s post has commented on events at Sussex Uni, failing to recognise that Kathleen is a lesbian and should surely be protected too. Prof Stock is the wrong kind of LGBT+ person, clearly.

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RoyalCorgi · 07/10/2021 16:33

One of the remarkable things about all of this is the realisation that OJ actually believes this stuff. He's not just jumping on a bandwagon, he really truly and sincerely believes that trans are the most marginalised group, and they are being oppressed by us wicked feminists. He genuinely thinks he is on the right side of history.

I can't imagine what is going on inside his tiny little brain.

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KittenKong · 07/10/2021 16:33

Does this mean they are going to stop showing drag shows? (It’s BBC isn’t it?)

KarentheBarbarian · 07/10/2021 16:32

And now I want a Tshirt saying "Reality is a Terf"...

Artichokeleaves · 07/10/2021 16:31

Anti-trans horror show?

'Pro - woman horror show' is what that in fact means. Women having a voice, having needs that don't involve centering males, women not surrendering rights, is a 'horror show' incompatible with trans wishes.

Unashamed misogyny.

WomaninBoots · 07/10/2021 16:26

"Anti-trans horror show"

Grin

Dear god. Is that bitch, Reality, spoiling the fun again?

Shedbuilder · 07/10/2021 16:20

It's all about the trans. This lesbian is doing a little happy dance.

Perhaps this is behind Emma Barnett's sudden about-face on Woman's Hour.

yourhairiswinterfire · 07/10/2021 16:15

Oh, ''anti-trans'' is it?

Is the Stonewall diversity programme not for the 'benefit' of LGB people too then? Just trans people?

I thought that was ''phobic'' or an ''ism'' or something?

BraveBananaBadge · 07/10/2021 16:09

[quote PandorasMailbox]Talcum X seems a tad rattled too

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1446104561979121665[/quote]
We're living through an "anti-trans horror show" now. It must be exhausting being LOJ, it really must.

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RoyalCorgi · 07/10/2021 16:08

"In the years to come, there will be films and plays made about the anti-trans horror show we're living through now.

"And some of the people who will shed tears and give standing ovations when they're made are saying nothing now. And that is not good enough."

Ah, Owen. Never one for understatement. Bless.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 07/10/2021 16:07

Omg what planet is he on?

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In the years to come, there will be films and plays made about the anti-trans horror show we're living through now.’

Shedbuilder · 07/10/2021 16:05

Super-scared they won't be able to bully colleagues into gender submission, more like.

PandorasMailbox · 07/10/2021 15:54

Talcum X seems a tad rattled too

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1446104561979121665

KarentheBarbarian · 07/10/2021 15:48

Sorry Auntie, but as an habitual Mumsnet lurker I must break cover to point out that I've been super scared for your journalistic standards for as long as you've been signed up to that self-serving intellectually masturbatory excuse for an "equalities package". To the extent that I now get most of my breaking news on this topic from Mumsnet.

I find I very much prefer their Op-eds, too....

Needmoresleep · 07/10/2021 15:42

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WitchButNotTheFunKind · 07/10/2021 15:30

I do hope that news is true, sounds like there won’t be an official statement though which is a shame

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RoyalCorgi · 07/10/2021 15:23

Ben must be glad he left the BBC before it became too terrifying to work there.

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