Is there any proof/statistics that back up the claim that trans people are the most marginalised and abused communities?

It's worth keeping in mind that even with the very small number of trans people who have been killed in the UK over the past decade, there's no evidence that the motive was transphobia for most if not all of the murders.

This is informative:

transcrimeuk.com/2017/11/16/trans-homicides-in-the-uk-a-closer-look-at-the-numbers/

The group most vulnerable to homicide in the UK, with the highest rate of being killed, is babies under one year old.

Assuming she wouldn’t lie Hmm I would not assume that.
But yes that is good news.

The deaths channel 4 quote in the Facf Check are probably fairly accurate, from death certificates. Sad that these people were murdered.
The good news is that the number of living trans people in that story are very much understated. Ch 4 say “trans people make up between 0.3 per cent and 0.75 per cent of the UK population.“
Susie Green of trans charity Mermaids in her official capacity says more than 2% in the UK helps explain the increase in school girls transitioning. Assuming she wouldn’t lie, the murder rate % for trans people is very very low indeed.

[quote RoastChicory]Nice fact-check here from Channel 4.

www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-how-many-trans-people-murdered-uk[/quote]
I checked out this 'fact check', the death rate quoted is from a trans rights organisation 'Transrespect Versus Transphobia Worldwide' so I would strongly doubt the veracity of their figures (they say about 1 per year in the UK) ONS don't record the data separately, apparently.

Their 'violence' figure is cobbled together using Stonewall data, so completely valueless too. Unless you think that Stonewall are a good, reputable source...

When you widen the bandwidth of what constitutes a trans person and you lower the bar on what constitutes an offence there can't fail to be more reported crimes against that group, even if everyone is behaving the same towards them.

Exactly.

To prove that trans people are the most marginalised, we'd have to have a clear definition of what it is to be trans, and how we are defining marginalised and abused.

Otherwise it's just a slogan.

Don’t make me laugh! I have worked with a grandmother who has kinship care of her grandchild who has a physical disability and can’t walk far. They failed to come to an appointment, which is very unlike them so I phoned and it turned out they did not have the bus fare, it was too far to walk and the grandmother had no credit on her phone so could not let me know.
I worked with a family who spent lockdown in a homeless flat with no carpets and not enough furniture to all sit in the living room at the same time. Single mum with 2 autistic boys. I have worked with families living in b&b accommodation, a single mum with 8 children living in a 3 bedroom flat. I could give you 100 other examples of people who don’t have the basics and have no voice because very few people care.
Most marginalised my arse!

I wish I could be that marginalised. Where’s my flag, corporate sponsorship, laws, politician Ld, charities, bake sale, lawsuits...

So marginalised that they are able to get schools, companies, the police and governments to bend over backwards to fulfill their every demand and push their totalitarian religion as fact and change laws that no one is allowed to point out that it's, quite literally, bollocks.

Lots of hate crimes reported by one brave person in a few years since coming out as a woman.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9985985/Transgender-woman-68-sues-Sainsburys-2-000-claiming-worker-said-look-state-that.html

Comments are great.

Whereas women have been socialised not to report misogynist incidents and crimes, ranging from cat calling all the way up to rape. For vast and complex reasons.

Non-verbal children with disabilities are fairly marginalised, but they don’t tend to use Twitter.

No.

Trans people are certainly targets of male violence but are they the most abused group ever ? No. No they are not.

And marginalised? Really?

When women are being told to accept, embrace and move over and we all are asked to state pronouns and our gender identity rather than our biological sex plus all the other ways this group are demanding their wants are given a higher priority than other groups and given the fact that people who express the view that biology is different to gender identity are abused, threatened with physical harm (often rape, draw your own conclusions from that!) and disciplined in their jobs and no platformed I struggle to see how trans people are marginalised.

When everyone is told to believe what you believe and face actual consequences for not doing so, you are not a marginalised group!

And if oppression means getting upset by seeing ribbons in suffragette colours in your environment, you are highly likely to feel you've won the oppression Olympics.

Pilot coco? Politicians!

"Marginalized" is an emotionally manipulative word.

No. Unless by marginalised they mean courted by big business, given months and special days, flags, charity money, lobby groups and pilot coco and chasing them...,

When you widen the bandwidth of what constitutes a trans person and you lower the bar on what constitutes an offence there can't fail to be more reported crimes against that group, even if everyone is behaving the same towards them.

This group started as people with diagnosed gender dysphoria, these people are now quite a small subset of trans, the 'crimes' against these extra people count as an increase in crime, but weirdly enough the suicide stats haven't been diluted accordingly and they were fabricated noted when trans was people with diagnosed gender dysphoria. Engineered oppression.

Statistically, in the UK, a trans person is more like to commit murder than be murdered. That data of course gets skewed by hitherto male offenders suddenly identifying as female after conviction for whatever reason.

But it's quite evident that the number of murdered transmen and transwomen is lower than that for either men or women when looked at as a percentage of each group as represented in the population. I.e. men are likeliest to be murdered, followed by women, followed by trans people. That data of course gets skewed by groups like Stonewall spreading the trans net very widely and counting lots of people who perhaps don't identify as trans, like occasional cross-dressers or people with DSD. Whatever the reason for the massively inclusive count, it shows up as suggesting it's very safe to be trans, which I doubt.

Bottom line, I understand the trans people murdered in the UK over the last few years could be counted on the fingers of one severely mutilated hand. I think it's around 2 in total. Not around 2 every week, like women, just 2.

And let's never lose track of the overwhelming fact that whoever you are, if you get murdered, it's nearly always a man who did it. 95% plus of murders are carried out by men. Our society's biggest unsolved problem is male violence and it impacts men, women, trans people and of course children too.

Whenever any group feels victimised or tempted to play oppression top trumps, let's remember we all face the same problem.

Ok. A man who self identified as a woman 50% of the time, won Business Woman of the Year. Even though, by his own admission, he is only 'being a woman' 50% of the time, he beat all the other business women who are women 100% of the time.

And a weightlifter who fails to register a lift at the Olympics wins the Sportswoman of the year award.

Transwoman who says “The hardest part about being a woman is figuring out what to wear” wins Woman of the Year award

Marginalised? Really?

Whoops — but of course I agree that in terms of numbers women are the most marginalised, abused and oppressed group in history and today. How can our leaders wring their hands over the fate of women in Afghanistan and support the erasure of the word woman itself over here?

No need to apologise, my fault for building up such a head of steam I forgot to add that.

It’s also very difficult to get accurate information as research generally looks at LGBTQ as a whole. So for example articles about hate crime will talk about the rise of transphobic & homophobic attacks but only cite homophobic attacks www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/29/spate-of-attacks-across-uk-sparks-fear-among-lgbtq-community

Plus we know from the trans widows thread that wives refusing to go along with new names/pronouns/presentation is described as violent & abusive

It is all part of the problem of lumping in the T with the LGB