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David Lammy pulls up Dominic Raab: 'mysogyny'...

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frazzled1 · 06/10/2021 11:42

twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1445679947360575493

MP who thinks women only spaces are for dinosaurs hoarding rights comments on thick as mince Raab who says
Misogyny is absolutely wrong, whether it’s a man against a woman, or a woman against a man

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Eucalyptustrees · 06/10/2021 13:48

The OP has very selectively edited Raab to miss out him saying the bit about insults and misogyny.

Selectively editing people's words to deliberately cause abuse and insults is one of the problems we face. If you also participate in that technique then your claims for damages are rather hollow.

Eucalyptustrees · 06/10/2021 13:43

Raab said insults and misogyny are wrong either way. He was talking about two things.

When people speak unscripted like this they rarely speak in perfectly grammatical sentences as we do in writing.

Lammy has a cheek pouncing on that when he's deliberately lied about what women have told him, insulted women and trivialised the issues as less important than petrol.

I imagine he's still angry at his own embarrassing performance. If he's capable of self reflection of course, which I doubt he has time for.

Datun · 06/10/2021 13:37

@PronounssheRa

This whole issue has revealed a lot about MPs, the lack of intelligence, the lack of concern about women's rights, the willingness to lie and repeat utter nonsense , how gullible some are, but also the very small number who are actually really brave
Same. It's one thing not knowing anything about the issue. But it's quite another publicly talking about it whilst you know you know nothing.
ANewCreation · 06/10/2021 13:33

Could it have been the impact of the boxing at Cambridge on his brain for Raab?

Beamur · 06/10/2021 13:26

@PronounssheRa

This whole issue has revealed a lot about MPs, the lack of intelligence, the lack of concern about women's rights, the willingness to lie and repeat utter nonsense , how gullible some are, but also the very small number who are actually really brave
I can't say I am surprised, but their willingness to publicly display it is a bit of an eye opener (to say the least) And yes, thanks for the few brave and smart ones!
RoyalCorgi · 06/10/2021 13:21

@PronounssheRa

This whole issue has revealed a lot about MPs, the lack of intelligence, the lack of concern about women's rights, the willingness to lie and repeat utter nonsense , how gullible some are, but also the very small number who are actually really brave
Absolutely. It's extraordinary. I never realised until recently just how dim these people are.
PronounssheRa · 06/10/2021 13:20

This whole issue has revealed a lot about MPs, the lack of intelligence, the lack of concern about women's rights, the willingness to lie and repeat utter nonsense , how gullible some are, but also the very small number who are actually really brave

RealhousewifeofBarnardCastle · 06/10/2021 13:19

Christ alive, just when you think the conservatives and MPs can’t piss women off even more they surpass themselves

WTF is Raab ON?

Cailleach1 · 06/10/2021 13:16

@MmeD

How, how, how do these people get into Oxbridge and then into government? They have educations that prove they are clever. Why then does so much stupid come out of their mouths? Please someone explain
Strange, isn't it? And Lammy went to Harvard, via UCL, and casually stated that men can grow cervices with a bit of surgery and hormones. Maybe not ovaries! Only maybe.

I think they don't really care what they say about women. Women aren't fully human. Men are important and that is why it is important that everyone acknowledges them as women, if they say they are. As for the discrete sex class formerly known as women; they need to do a supporting role.

Whatthechicken · 06/10/2021 13:07

I can imagine him tapping out that tweet giggling ‘na, na, na, na, naa’ to himself.

Makes you realise how easy it must have been to lobby government (and everyone else) for gender ideology and it explains how quickly women’s rights were cast aside.

MagpiePi · 06/10/2021 13:05

I think the main thing that we are missing here is that we MUST NOT BE nasty to the poor, suffering men.

#be nice

...FFS

Melroses · 06/10/2021 13:03

Pot, kettle and all that 🙄

Mochudubh · 06/10/2021 13:00

@PronounssheRa

that's rich coming from a man who thinks males can grow a cervix and that women are dinosaurs. But, yeah Raab is an idiot too.
I've just seen the report and came on here to see if anyone had started a thread about the sheer hypocrisy.
MmeD · 06/10/2021 12:59

How, how, how do these people get into Oxbridge and then into government? They have educations that prove they are clever. Why then does so much stupid come out of their mouths? Please someone explain

FreeBritnee · 06/10/2021 12:57

How can anyone define misogyny if no one is clear what a woman is? It sounds like Dominic Raab has it right. Men/ women they’re all the same.

AlexaShutUp · 06/10/2021 12:56

Well, seeing as the word woman no longer seems to mean what it used to mean, I see no reason why we shouldn't change the definition of misogyny as well.

What it really boils down to is the fact that male politicians don't actually give a toss about what happens to people with two x chromosomes. As long as they get to hang on to their existing privilege...

Lovelyricepudding · 06/10/2021 12:55

The only difference between the definition given by the two of them is Raab correctly identifying sex.

Lammysaurus · 06/10/2021 12:54

Jesus. Well, at least Raab knows he's supposed to think it's wrong, although he has the wrong word, misses the power balance, and ignores the fact that women can also be misogynist, which is part of the problem.

Lammy, on the other hand, knows what misgyny is and is cheerleading it.

lazylinguist · 06/10/2021 12:53

God, none of them actually care, they just want to be seen to be saying 'the right thing' to appear woke. And yet they can't even do that without making idiotic mistakes!

Lottapianos · 06/10/2021 12:53

Bloody useless idiots, the pair of them. Lammy never misses an opportunity for a bit of pontificating Hmm

Jaysmith71 · 06/10/2021 12:49

@Verbena87

Fuck sake. It’s almost as if an Oxbridge education alone can’t polish a turd.
Oxford can take the blame for Cameron and Johnson, but Lammy went to SOAS, then Harvard.
TimeToDateAgain · 06/10/2021 12:48

@Beamur

Yep, I suspect they think sexism and misogyny are the same thing...
Like it or not, these are educated people who move in the higher echelons of power.

Is it any wonder it's feeling implausible to have a decent public discussion where everyone knows what they're talking about and has a grasp of the stakes involved?

Verbena87 · 06/10/2021 12:45

Fuck sake. It’s almost as if an Oxbridge education alone can’t polish a turd.

Usernamenotavailabletryanother · 06/10/2021 12:42

The idiots are winning

Beamur · 06/10/2021 12:41

Yep, I suspect they think sexism and misogyny are the same thing...