New WPATH Guidelines - SOC8

www.podcastone.com/episode/What-Do-We-Mean-By-Gender-Affirming-Care-A-Conversation-with-Dr-Laura-Edwards-Leeper

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Part one of Gender Nuance, a three-part series for the week of October 4, 2021

Clinical psychologist Dr. Laura Edwards-Leeper has worked with transgender and gender questioning youth since 2007 and has helped facilitate many successful medical transitions in young people.

She has also, in the last year or so, begun to publicly voice concerns that some clinicians in her field have adopted a philosophy that overlooks, even eschews, the importance of proper patient assessment.

In this conversation, the first of a three-part series this week, Dr. Leeper talks with Meghan about the concept of "gender affirming care" and how lack of access to specialized care can lead young patients to providers who follow protocols for adult patients, which may or may not be appropriate.

She describes how she works with her own patients and talks about why something as fundamental as proper assessment has become so controversial in her field.

Guest Bio:
Dr. Edwards-Leeper is an Associate Professor in the School of Graduate Psychology at Pacific University in Hillsboro, Oregon. She also works with clients through her private practice in Beaverton, Oregon.

Dr. Edwards-Leeper was a member of the American Psychological Association Task Force that developed practice guidelines for working with transgender individuals.

She is currently the Chair of the Child and Adolescent Committee for the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) and is involved in the WPATH Standards of Care (SOC) 8 revision.

She is an ally to the LGBTQ community and is considered an international expert in this field.

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See this thread:

“Chair of WPATH Child and Adolescent Committee says schools should not socially transition without parental involvement”

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4408895-Chair-of-WPATH-Child-and-Adolescent-Committee-says-schools-should-not-socially-transition-without-parental-involvement

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A MUST LISTEN!!!. Features Dr Laura Edwards Leeper currently the Chair of the Child and Adolescent Committee for the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) and is involved in the WPATH Standards of Care (SOC) 8 revision.

"Non-binary Gender Nullification Surgery"

www.alignsurgical.com/non-binary/nullification/

This is very relevant to the "Eunuchs" category:

Pornography, Paraphilias, & "Puberty Blockers"
genevievegluck.substack.com/p/pornography-paraphilias-and-puberty

This systematic review of 20 studies

I know most people here know this but there are standards and protocols for conducting a systematic review with established criteria and tools for establishing the certainty and reliability of evidence and the risk of bias in the methodology of the study etc.

training.cochrane.org/handbook

So it's now LGBTQIAE+

Another consonant please Carol.

I smell law suits.

I wonder if Kiera Bell and Mrs A triggered this?

Look forward to the eunuch flag and tee shirt.

Bookmarking!

Abstract of paper from 2010:

I saw that and a 2009 presentation that was presenting eunuch as non-binary. It's remarkable to think just how much the non-binary category has increased since then and not in a sense where 'eunuch' would be a significant subgroup (this might vary with age).

Abstract of paper from 2010:
www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15532731003749095?scroll=top&needAccess=true

"Currently, the WPATH Standards of Care (SOC) provide guidelines for the treatment of male-to-female (MtF) transsexuals suffering from a gender identity disorder (GID). However, a large number of men with gender dysphoria who desire to be emasculated do not fit the classical pattern of MtF transsexualism. They loathe their manhood, but do not identify as, nor wish to be, female. Instead, they seek castration to become something outside the binary sexes. The formal term for such an individual is “eunuch,” which we here refer to as an MtE transgendered individual."

I just googled 'eunuch wpath' (yeah, I'm reckless) and found a forum with over 14,000 users discussing their eunuch issues. Not transwomen just regular eunuchs. I guess wpath doesn't like to miss a market.

I suspect there will be a lot of fighting going on in the creation of these guidelines

Surely it's too late for fighting as haven't they been writing these for over 3 years? They must be pretty much there or even finished the final draft.

Eunuchs? They're talking about eunuchs now? Wow.

Wait, if you referred to a post-op transwoman as a eunuch, wouldn't the sky fall on you? Surely that's transphobic?

They really have just been making it up as they go along.

It's scandalous

Not the least.

I guess it depends if the new SOC are going to be genuinely evidence based, or evidence-that-supports-our-crusade based.

Yes.

Of course, Bowers is trying to peddle back from the interview now on twitter...

Re GIDS and the High Court - I think that what GIDS wanted was to be able to pass the buck to the endocrinologists?

For, you know, when the suing for damages starts.

In the Marci Bowers / Abigail Shrier interview, Bowers uses the word 'sloppy' to describe much practice in this area - it's really worth reading. Thousands of children affected.

It makes you wonder what the US health insurance companies have been playing at.

I hope that there are more major reviews like this one from Baker et al being done. It would be good to have a better idea of where we are across the board on research.

They may not have been involved, but it is unlikely that GIDS did not know about this review of guidelines coming through.

Baker, K. E., et al, (2021) Hormone Therapy, Mental Health and Quality of Life Among Transgender People: A Systematic Review. Journal of the Endocrine Society.

academic.oup.com/jes/article/5/4/bvab011/6126016