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Guessing Talcum X will be spitting chips over this one. Cracking article in the Guardian! Well done Nick.

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JustcameoutGC · 02/10/2021 18:33

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/02/if-labour-is-afraid-to-fight-those-who-stifle-free-speech-it-will-pay-dearly

My favourite line is.

"But – and surely I do not need to spell this out – when the means include the suppression of debate you open the door to every variety of grifter and fanatic."

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AnneLovesGilbert · 02/10/2021 19:43

Thanks for sharing. That’s stunning.

merrymouse · 02/10/2021 19:42

It’s the Observer, not the Guardian. Like the Mail, the Sunday and weekly papers have different staff.

Littleants · 02/10/2021 19:41

And THIS is why the Tories will keep winning. At least they temper their disdain for women.

Violetparis · 02/10/2021 19:38

Cleebope2 the comments under The Guardian 'pregnant people' article on Twitter are very interesting, so many are now pushing back on this nonsense. Nazir Afzal, the former chief prosecutor commented. I think more high profile people are starting to speak out. Nick Cohen's article is excellent, I hope Labour politicians read it and take note.

frazzled1 · 02/10/2021 19:34

Ah ooops thanks, yes my mistake, v different stance. Blush

RoyalCorgi · 02/10/2021 19:29

Fantastic piece. It's the Observer, not the Guardian - very different editorial stance.

nauticant · 02/10/2021 19:27

The article is in The Observer, not The Guardian.

frazzled1 · 02/10/2021 19:26

What kind of twisted progressive politics leaves tearful sportswomen frightened of speaking their minds?

Progressive institutions are too scared to defend the material reality of biological sex difference, without which the theory of evolution, with its emphasis on sexual selection, could not exist. Like creationists, they have locked themselves into anti-Darwinian obscurantism.

Cracking article, thanks for sharing.

Here's looking at you Guardian. About. Bloody. Time.

Cleebope2 · 02/10/2021 19:26

At last some sense on this issue but they still run a ‘Pregnant people’ article today too.

dropthevipers · 02/10/2021 19:26

No Chance-anything remotely GC on Guardian comments is pounced on asap. I am amazed Nick got to publish that, given that the Guardian are so captured

Selkiesarereal · 02/10/2021 19:08

Thanks for sharing a blistering piece, maybe the Guardian are finally waking up to what is really happening.

PhiRhoSigma · 02/10/2021 18:57

I notice the Guardian is not allowing comments on the piece. Wonder if they will switch them on later?

CharlieParley · 02/10/2021 18:46

Mine is

"Anyone who wishes the Conservatives gone must worry that the Tory party will soon say that it at least does not think “women” is a dirty word and it will not allow workers to be punished for speaking out of turn."

Thanks for posting, that was a good read.

GreenTeaPingPong · 02/10/2021 18:44

Wish there was a 'like' button on the Guardian website!