Anyone else stunned at the hypocrisy they're witnessing?

Nothing else to say except still Spartacus.

We know better. You know better. So many people the world over know better.

TWAW - but maybe not that one, cos she wasn't very nice. Nope! Because what you are reling on to misdirect is precisely what many GC women have been saying for years. How the fuck can we tell?

Your opinion is utter bunk and we can all see it!

Jesus! It's like we got to 2021 and Mishy now wants us to go all the way back to 2004, pre the GRC.

I always wanted to be a bear when I was a child (no, really). Sadly... apart from hibernation tendencies and a shit temper...I am not a bear.

@TedImgoingmad

Completely agree.

If trans want rights they will be entirely happy with separate areas for anyone , not just trans , could be called freestylers. For anyone who wishes to use them . That is freedom of choice .

But males and females should have choice and rights as well.

That leaves prisons and hospitals / medical appointments etc to sort out though .

I am sure there must be an answer.

They are male.

Many of them are a threat. Because they are male.

Therefore your opinion is wrong!

And dangerous but then again one has to remember the relevance here and it has been decreed by MishyJDI that predatory men identifying as women or just dressing as women as a disguise is not relevant and the victims therefore are equally irrelevant.

That marathon runner was great, really clear and authoritative, well done to her.

OJ in particular has made me rage today. Hypocritical shit.

Trans people really are not a threat. Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

All crime statistics and research show that male people who identify as women are just as likely to offend against women as any other member of the male sex. Therefore your opinion is wrong!

Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

Predatory men “in general” don’t dress up as police officers either. But a minority do.

Some predatory men do dress up as women to commit assaults. Some convicted sex offenders who are having a bad time of it in the VP wing of a male prison are keen to be moved to a women’s prison instead, and willing to put on a dress in order to be moved.

Some pretend to have heart attacks, one under my care used to refuse to come to dialysis until he made himself sick enough to require hospital admission for a couple of days. He used to say it was worth it for a trip out (this isn’t identifiable, it is pretty common).

If people are willing to put themselves in hospital, why do you think that pretending to be trans is sacrosanct? A lot of these offenders showed zero sign of being trans until they thought it might get them into a women’s prison. Look at Ian Huntley - do you really think that he is trans? Or do you think he’s a lying little shit?

Unfortunately no I'm not. Too many people (men) who jumped on the #MeToo bandwagon are now telling women mixed sex facilities hold no danger and they're being prudish/ bigotted/phobic to share their concerns.

Its just words to them, it means nothing.

I often wonder why with all this keen desire to posthumously trans certain people the TRAs never do so with him, it's a real conundrum.

Nobody has said transpeople are a threat. Women have said that self ID laws are a threat to the hard won protections that are essential to the safety of women and children, because they will and have been exploited by predatory males, whether those males identify genuinely as trans women (whatever that means under the ever expanding umbrella) or just good old women haters finding yet another avenue to exploit. It's happened in every other walk of life, it has and will happen in this one. That's why we need our single sex spaces to exclude all male bodied people, and that's why third spaces are needed for anyone who needs them.

Any predatory men, in general don't put on a dress and pretend to be women to do their awful deeds. It just rarely happens, that its not relevant. Anyway my opinion.

Anyone wondering why VAWG is so prevalent and nothing is done about it bar handwringing and a chorus of 'oh dear, what are we to do?' needs to look no further than this comment by MishyJDI, it tells you all you need to know at just how much contempt the victims of male violence are held in. Remember that it just rarely happen it is not relevant, that predatory men would and have dressed as women to access women - in Mishy's opinion this is not relevant, the victims are not relevant.

I didn't know about that case @RedDogsBeg. Thanks

Do you think, we should just let things happen. All the protest in the world doesn't seem to make any difference. If we let things happen, and they all get sued, they would run out of money, very quickly. This rubbish makes me so angry. Where would men be without women. They would have dirty houses, no meals and no children. Men are such an ungrateful bunch!

Dear Mishy

Your entire precept is wrong, as transwomen really are women, so there is no conflict other than false ones generated on here.

really are is false.

As long ago as the 1970's - the Cambridge Rapist did, he needed access to all Women Colleges and how did he gain this access, that's right by dressing as a woman.

He made his escape on a bike through Cambridge dressed as a woman.

So, cut the crap MishyJDI, it's happened, it does happen and as for this comment of yours : It just rarely happens, that its not relevant could you be any less repulsive in your contempt for the victims of it? It's extremely fucking relevant to those victims.

transwomen really are women

Are you genuinely so stupid that you really believe that? Or are you just trolling? Why on earth would you believe something that quite obviously isn't true? Not only that, but you imagine that other people are going to believe it because you've stated it as a fact. Do you think if you said "sea horses are horses" we'd believe that too?

At what objective point do transwomen come out of the high risk class of 'male' and into the much lower risk class of 'female'?

It's all to signal that we can trust them because NAMALT and they're obviously the good guys. Except we don't and when we tell them why, we are told we're wrong. Try listening to the women you say you care about. All of them, not just the ones who you think are right.

Someone is going to give themselves an injury jumping on and off these bandwagons.

We'll remember all of the spineless fuckers who refused to stand up for women's rights.