Radio 5 live - Nicky Campbell gets more than he bargained for

Placemarking to listen in the morning. Sounds ace!

NC loves his woke causes, likes to handwring about the poor, oppressed, under-represented minorities. Yet there he still is, 20 odd plus years presenting a plethora of current events programmes (following on from the DJ/gameshow host career). He's sooo concerned, but has he moved over for one of his worthy causes? Nope.

Men like him and JOB don't really give a shit about women. They want to look like they're the good guys, but scratch the surface, and you can see what they really are.

These people really have put themselves in a pickle haven't they.

NC - 4 daughters. Catcalling leering from young. Terrible. I GET IT.

Single sex spaces. Oh fuck. Fuck fuck fuck.

None of them believe that having all the stuff that was single sex open to anyone on self ID is not a risk for women.

Why so many are so scared of not using the slogans etc they have to, to show support for trans inclusion. They don't mean s word if it. They don't believe it.

Why are so many including our political parties so scared? To the point that they won't even hint at any possibility that any of this might be a teeny bit iffy for women and girls?

On Instagram

Interesting. Well put. I follow ucas online and there is a post on there from a guy who bemoans that his school didn’t let him us3 the girls bathroom (so hateful!) but now his uni does. If he has ANY respect for women, he might consider their discomfort...

Well said that woman!!

He couldn't wait to distance himself from that could he?

That was amazing! A brilliant interview and so incisive. Well done Mara. 👏

Nicky Campbell is a very arrogant man - I've no idea why he ends up hosting so many debate/discussion/interview programmes when he's patently unable and/or unwilling to respect anybody else's viewpoints.

You can see/hear him clearly smirking condescendingly (depending whether on TV or radio) when somebody says something that he disagrees with - and he will often go for a low blow and try to bait the audience into ganging up with him against the person rather than using his words and intelligent, respectful debate.

Maybe he should have just stuck to wheel Of Fortune.

Mara was very good. I couldn't believe NC when he (presuming, don't know his inner soul identity) asked her what could be done and she answered him (again presuming, could be she or they). When Mara stated that single sex spaces protect women, he said the conversation had taken a turn. No it hadn't. This issue just hadn't been prevented or shouted over. It almost seems that women can't be 'allowed' to say anything about this removal of spaces which are free of male born bodies. And where women feel, and are, safer.

Wonderful Mara.
I don't think it needs to be a toxic issue. I think people say that when they don't feel comfortable to have a discussion. It's only toxic when people use the word transphobia or somehow jump to the idea that trans people's existence is being denied. Or trot out the suicide claims. These are the things that make it toxic.

Fantastic to hear Mara spelling it out for him and he just blocked his ears. Listen to women...but no, don’t like what you tell me . Classic.

The Lancet - the favourite comic of the incels and anti-vaxxers.

Also placemarking to listen tomorrow! Sounds fun.

Campbell: It's a hugely toxic issue

Hmm, always declaring that the issue is toxic. Not quite so keen to admit who the toxicity is coming from though, are they? 🤔

Cowards.

Wow.

You could hear him nervously rustling his papers!

I was very impressed by her not being diverted.

And his attempt to divert was a good one. Totally related to the wider issue she was talking about.
Very likely to be something she had views on.
Raising that in response was clever, as on same area and so felt like a supportive question staying on her point and invitation to go into more.

I would have been diverted onto that for sure!

But no. She said what she wanted to say and pressed it.

What a legend. I mean aside from the huge athletic achievements obviously!

Mara you ROCK!!!

Same. Listen later

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Depressing that Nicky Campbell referred to The Lancet in that Twitter exchange as support his response. I wonder if that (previously) esteemed journal would be as equally willing to publish a doctor expressing medical concerns about PB’s etc?

Loved when she countered that Couzens was a tiny majority but Sarah Evarard is still dead.

Yes, she was fantastic. So calm.

You can hear he was deeply uncomfortable & wanting it to be over by the end, meanwhile Mara's voice didn't even waver.

Mara is a brilliant commentator - she's covering the London Marathon on Sunday for the BBC Sport World Feed (available via BBC Red Button)

Nicky Campbell is very TWAW, I've heard him host previous phone-ins, he doesnt get it.

How did it get to this that hearing a woman speak plainly is almost like a physical shock?

Julia Long does it but I've little expectation that Nicky Campbell would ever talk to her.

Campbell was Campbell, of course, despite the 4 daughters.

Just been reading up,about her - impressive woman
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Yamauchi

Wow! She was amazing!

She explained so clearly that men don't listen. Then he asked what can be done. She said protect women's single-sex spaces. He then basically didn't listen. Which she pointed out to him.

Well done that woman!

"As women we are not allowed now to use the term "Women"