Radio 5 live - Nicky Campbell gets more than he bargained for

I'm guessing they mean that despite being able to dismiss a 'tiny proportion' of threats or a 'tiny proportion' of women falling victim, TRA have no fear of trying to force through laws and changes that only benefit a 'tiny proportion' of the population. Then, that 'tiny proportion' is paramount. When the tiny proportion is dead or harmed women you can can wave it away...

That's my assumption!

When Mara said that one way to make things safer for women is to keep single sex spaces, Nicky said its only a "tiny proportion" of men who attack women. As in, it doesn't really matter if losing single sex spaces means more women will be attacked because it is only a tiny proportion of men who attack women.

The irony is that 51% of the population are losing their hard-won rights to appease 0.6% of the population who are trans. So the "tiny proportion" argument apparently only works one way.

What do you mean kitii?

Funny how the arguments never go both ways.

Aren't trans people a tiny percent of the population? 0.6% I think?

I always feel that the “only a tiny proportion would attack” argument is so telling. Sarah was sadly a victim of a man who represents the tiny proportion. The 79 women killed since Sarah died represent a tiny proportion of the population of women. But they are not simply a proportion, or a percentage, or a number, they were sisters, mums daughters and aunties. Just like that we become a statistic. Just like that we become an anecdote. Buts it’s ok because we are just part of the tiny proportion. 1 is too many. Men need to stop.

I don't think he wanted to close her down, he just didn't see the discussion of single sex spaces coming and jabbered the BBC nonsense. He gave her a lot of space to talk and absolutely handed her the opportunity to say that it only takes one predator to end a woman's life when safeguarding doesn't happen.

I was SO impressed at her poise, and her ability to calmly articulate the issue.

He sounded ridiculous quite frankly. Clearly panicking and desperate to shut her up. He was more than happy for her to talk when she was saying what he thought she would and then....

When he emphasised "there are...women...on..both...sides of the debate" I think he was inferring or trying to say/not say that there are 2 different sorts of women...

But what we all wanted to see was the look on Rachel's face when he handed over at the end of that.

Fucking amazing! What a brilliant woman. Thank you Mara.

Wonderful Mara!

Thank you!

Very good. Wish I could stay that calm under pressure!

Mara was so brilliant. Total admiration for her.

l remember Mara's spirited speech when she won the NYC half in 2010 (? I was a few places further down the pack ). I think she was a diplomat in a former life - she definitely doesn't need the benefit of NC's panic-mansplaining

I had huge admiration for Mara as an athlete and even more now that I see her in the ranks of the heroic female athletes who have dared to say, "No, this isn't OK."

Mara said she felt unsafe when someone was following her when running. Men tweeted that she was wrong.
Nick asked what men could do, Mara said (amongst other things) keep single sex spaces, he questioned it.
Well done Mara (and Nick unintentionally)

To be fair to Nicky Campbell he tried to put the experience of his daughters while out jogging and on public transport , across, and he brought up the Lancet page when he didn't have to. So I think he was doing well until he totally lost it when he tried to question the link between wider government policy on safe women's spaces, safety on the streets and Sarah Everard's death and the word "woman" being erased. It was then you could hear him thinking "I am going to get in trouble from upstairs for this" and made sure he inserted "there are women on both sides of the argument" comment and closed the conversation down. So I don't think it is him personally at fault but the Beeb who have obviously come down hard on their presenters. Jane Garvey and Fi Glover referred to this indirectly on their podcast about the "pressure from upstairs" or words to that effect.

Mara was ace! Calm, brave and articulate! Three cheers to her!

Morland, 14 March 2021 - I'd never seen this before, it was mentioned in the comments of the Janice Turner piece today.

'You asked what could be done to keep women safe'

She was excellent

I liked this bit.

"Men should listen to women when they say they feel unsafe"

Nice for NC to provide a live example of what Mara was talking about

I thought she was amazing. Stuck to her point, refused to be deflected. And as PP have said:
Man: how can women be made safer?
Woman: keep our single sex spaces.
Man: oh, no, losing them is not a problem, only a tiny minority...
Woman: Wayne Cozens also a tiny minority. Still committed murder. A woman is now dead.
Man:

Just listened to the clip, what a woman. I just loved the way she calmly stayed on course. Go Mara!

Mara was brilliant. What a star. NK - close speech : There are women in both sides of the debate. Idiot. He really is unable to listen.