University decrees people must not be challenged in toilets and changing areas

Bloody hell fire! I had somehow missed that. Thank you for the links, Embarrassing and Gasp0de. Very disturbing indeed.

LSE. twitter.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1419643247522103303?s=20 There will have been a thread about it here at the time too, I'm sure. It was a couple of months ago.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4306671-From-LSE-Gender-Studies-paper-via-Sex-Matters

a university recently hosted a student talking in loving detail with full aprobation from the university about holding a knife to a woman's throat and being aroused by it.....

WHAT?! What is this referring to??

And given that less than 5% of reported rapes end in charges, and much less than that end in a conviction, and that a university recently hosted a student talking in loving detail with full aprobation from the university about holding a knife to a woman's throat and being aroused by it.....

it's pretty much open season without consequences.

Can you imagine the shrieking if anyone said that TW should use the men's facilities and they can just prosecute if anything bad happens to them?

That's because male people matter.

Apparently.

I thought this would happen all along.

A while ago I was at Gatwick very early in the morning. I went to the loos which were quite remote, and there was no one around. When I came out there was a man there. Now, he may have gone into the women’s in error, but I didn’t like the look of him and ran out. But according to this new “rule” I was a bigot and if I’d told a cleaner or other member of staff i would have been the one in trouble.

The problem with using the disabled loo is that it can be dangerous. As can any loo without the gap at the bottom of the door. As you can’t see if anyone has collapsed behind it. Where do you if you’re out and you feel ill? Realise you are heavily bleeding/ miscarriage? Chest pains? About to have a seizure? The gaps are there for safety and hygiene/air flow. So you need men and women only toilets with gaps at the bottom of the doors. Like there’s been for a long time. Also useful to check quickly when there’s a fire.

University of Exeter are completely captured.

www.exeter.ac.uk/departments/inclusion/getinvolved/campaigns/trahr/

I thought that was the Uni of Essex.

Yes - Reindorf Review was for Essex. Apologies.

This is, of course, much cheaper and easier than taking measures to actually prevent it. Suck it up and report it afterwards.

If an assault happens, they "tut" loudly.

Ah Exeter, the University that topped the rape culture league table, removing protections for women. This will end well.

But don’t worry, because if you do get raped or sexually assaulted the university has “zero tolerance for sexual harassment, abuse or assault” and “criminal or disciplinary proceedings will be brought against those who commit these offences.”

This is, of course, much cheaper and easier than taking measures to actually prevent it. Suck it up and report it afterwards.

This toilet thing is probably part of the negotiated ransom reparations package.

This is what makes me laugh about the 'what are you gonna do, check everyone's genitals as they walk into the loos' gotcha that TRAs use.

Under this sort of self id policy, the idea of genitals being in any way relevant is completely redundant. A big huge bloke who very obviously has a cock and balls can walk into the ladies and no one can challenge him because he is 'self identifying as female' and 'using the facilities he is most comfortable with'.

And these fucking idiots don't think this kind of caper will be exploited by men who want access to vulnerable women?

Perhaps a freedom of information request

How many female students have suffered physical assault on campus ?

From that Sky News article:

A University of Exeter spokesman said "the safety, security and wellbeing of our students is, and always will be, our primary concern", adding that it had a "zero tolerance for sexual harassment, abuse or assault".

So, if for their security a female Exeter student in a changing area wants to challenge a man who has entered that area, how does she do so without inadvertently appearing to challenge them "regarding personal gender identity" and so be in breach of principle 2 of Exeter's policy statement?

But there's no clash of rights.

A University of Exeter spokesman said "the safety, security and wellbeing of our students is, and always will be, our primary concern", adding that it had a "zero tolerance for sexual harassment, abuse or assault".

So zero tolerance but at the same time opening up the toilets to anyone and everyone.

Male supremacist toilets.

Mission complete.

news.sky.com/story/amp/elite-uk-universities-named-on-everyones-invited-rape-culture-website-12275699

Exeter already one of the top mentions on this website.

When I was at Exeter they had an Islamic Studies Centre. I wonder if the new rules apply in that building too.

Audrey Ludwig, a discrimination solicitor thinks this could be challenged as indirect discrimination.

twitter.com/AudreySuffolk/status/1443102384679497734

It's open day for voyeurs.

So putting aside for a minute the issue of people who are 'officially transitioning' and what that means.

They also allow for a man who describes himself as GNC (might just wear some nail polish or have long hair or maybe none of those - who is the arbiter of what is GNC?) can go into the women's changing area, watch women change, maybe get naked himself and if those women complain they will be punished?

This is basically a Wi Spa Charter.

Wasn't it Exeter that had the report saying they had followed incorrect stonewall advice?