Lammy… again!

www.cityam.com/city-lawyers-would-be-forced-to-give-free-help-to-rape-victims-under-labour/

@TatoAndBeans It seems to be a back of the fag packet policy.

I was listening to him wittering on about violence against women and all the super-duper things Labour would do to keep women safe. Funny that he hasn't quite made the link between self-id and obliterating the fucking meagre safeguards women currently have. I nearly bit into my coffee mug listening to his hypocrisy. Still, no surprises here from Labour really.
endofagain Yes to disenfranchised women setting up a party. Impossible in this climate but we can dream.

Or maybe the other c-word.

That's a very good point Jojoba... how many of these politicians getting flustered by the population distribution of the cervix could actually find one on a map.

He sounds very transphobic as he clearly thinks transwomen aren’t women, judging by that ludicrous answer.

I've checked and David Lammy is old enough to be my father. So surely he's the dinosaur, not me?

To be fair, Lammy probably thinks "vaginas = fuck-holes for the all-important cock" then "cervixes = ends of fuck-hole for the all-important cock"

It's interesting that he's waded into the debate without understanding it. Say what you like about Emily Thornberry, but she has understood that the objection to the phrase "only women have cervixes" is that trans men also have a cervix. Lammy hasn't grasped this at all, so he thinks it's about trans women having medical procedures to create a cervix. Which would, frankly, be insane. What's the point in having a cervix if you haven't got a uterus?

Surely the next question someone needs to ask him is "What is a cervix?" Could be enlightening to hear the answer.

It's as embarrassing as those people who think women piss out of their vaginas or can hold their periods in or something. Aren't women mysterious!

[quote PurgatoryOfPotholes]This is him on Radio 5 today. Well worth a listen/watch. Don't throw anything...

Why does Lammy consider his ageism to be a legitimate form of prejudice?

This is him on Radio 5 today. Well worth a listen/watch. Don't throw anything...

I wish the sensible women in the labour party would set up a separate party. I would vote for them. I am disenfranchised at the moment, just as women were disenfranchised a hundred years ago. There is just a different way of achieving it this time.

Another privileged Labour Party politician (like Lisa Nandy) who consistently harks back to an imaginary deprived childhood. He has benefitted at every turn from his Guyanese heritage - scholarship to an exclusive private school, entry to SOAS and the first black Briton to study at Harvard law school.

Must have failed biology O level though.

Agree with @Fariha31, they just need to step the fuck away now, split up into the Momentum party and a centre-left party. As it is, the dwindling pool of talent in the party is being drowned out by the likes of Lammy, Rayner, Nandy etc who are only there to appease Momentum and stop a leadership challenge.

And people wonder why Labour can't get elected

It's just a continuation of language being hijacked. If woman can include men, and males can be female, and periods can mean the tummy upsets that men get from taking hormones, I'm sure cervix can stretch to mean the top of a neovagina - or even a toenail, if that would stop certain people getting their feelings hurt.

I'm continually amazed by how low the level of anatomical/medical science knowledge in the general population is, even amongst really well educated people. I mean, I get that the finer points of embryology and genetics aren't exactly common knowledge but they aren't super complicated either if you're motivated to learn about them. If you're reasonably bright then you should be able to teach yourself at least the basics if it's something that interests you, and if you're relying heavily on that kind of information in an argument then you'd think that it would interest you. So when I hear TRAs spouting absolutely garbage about super complicated chromosomes and different DSDs and what is and is isn't achievable via SRS, stuff that is obviously false and easily disprovable, I can only conclude that one of three things is true: 1) they don't understand what they're talking about and they aren't smart enough to find out, 2) they don't understand what they're talking about and they aren't interested enough to find out, or 3) they know what they're saying is wrong and they're just flat out lying about it. Which leads me to question, which of these 3 people is David Lammy?

Only briefly! Thank goodness he's here to tell us we can't have any rights because of us being dinosaurs!

Endofagain that's a really good point and perhaps making that point again and again would mean something positive comes out of this embarrassing gaffe.

When asked if only women have a cervix he replies transwomen can too.

So quite clearly he does NOT consider them to be women.

He got that bit right!

So

On a positive note, my recent change of name to that of a dinosaur seems to have been strangely prescient.

Honestly, I despair about this guy. How can he be so stupid?