Lammy… again!

Why is he so keen to campaign for stuff he doesn't understand in the least?

She called him out on his bullshit, and he knows it's bullshit so didn't have a leg to stand on, so he got nasty

Yes, towards the end of the interview you could hear the absolute ANGER in his voice. There's a man who doesn't like to hear the word 'no' from a woman. Chilling.

Lammy said on that interview that one in four transpeople COMMIT suicide, not attempt, but COMMIT

It's all getting very Four Yorkshiremen: I used to get up at four o'clock in the morning, half an hour before I went to bed, commit suicide, then pay mill owner for permission for him to use exclusionary language against me....

Oh good god, that Radio 5 interview! What an arrogant, entitled shithead! He 'identifies as a feminist' - oh well that's alright then. His own race has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the question or with this topic. She called him out on his bullshit, and he knows it's bullshit so didn't have a leg to stand on, so he got nasty. What a bully. Disgusting

I'm wearying of being told I'm old-fashioned/bigoted/a dinosaur by people who are clearly both older than me and also speak transinclusive jargon worse than I do.

I speak pseudo-progressive as a native language. I just don't agree with the assumptions it all rests on!

Labour are going to lose the next election.

Wow, Lammy said on that interview that one in four transpeople COMMIT suicide, not attempt, but COMMIT

That was the point I shouted 'oh do fuck off' at the screen.

I think it's really telling that they all know that they are not allowed to say certain things but they don't know why

Craven fools.

This movement really is entirely based on words without definitions, isn't it?

Drives me fucking nuts.

Not only do I often not know what they're saying, I'm also quite often not sure whether they know what they're saying.

Sigh - I want to vote Labour. I want an intelligent, moral and ethical government. But how can anyone vote for a government where MPs who consider themselves fit to govern spout all sorts of inaccurate crap about women's bodies in desperation to silence women because they've got themselves too close to a toxic misogynistic lobby intent on removing women and girl's rights to boundaries.

This movement really is entirely based on words without definitions, isn't it?

I also raised it not the doorstep to a Labour canvasser

The 'correct' answer to this (from the TRA point of view), which only Emily Thornberry seems to have understood, is to talk about transmen and that TMAM, some of them have a cervix, so it is transphobic to say that only women have a cervix.

One of the massively hilarious things about all this (and there are many) is that almost any of us on this board could have given a better, TRA-approved answer than Starmer, Lammy, Reeves et al.

It's because we all understand the issues and they don't. They get trans men and trans women mixed up, they think sex reassignment surgery can magically give men female parts, and they (probably) don't know what a cervix is.

Fair play to Thornberry - I don't agree with her, but at least she's understood what the issue is.

I just think of all the things me and my cervix have been through together and I get so mad about men like this wading in with their utter twaddle. Do you think David's wife went mental at him when he got home? I bet she would have if she'd ever had to have her cervix opened up using a a weird dildo balloon device to make it possible for an embryo to be manually placed in her uterus. Remember speaking to a lady with a weak cervix so she struggled to carry a baby to term. David's thoughts on the matter are irrelevant to me.

Sorry - that was meant to quote the link to his interview on radio 5 this morning back on page 1 - oops!

I raised it on my doorstep to a Labour Party canvasser before the last general election. Am I not a member of the British public. What a fucking joke

They are like supply teachers who've been left a copy of the teacher's answer book.
Absolutely this.

I think he glanced over the crib sheet, which said that transmen have a cervix, but didn't digest it. He gave no thought to the actual meanings, and just remembered it as transwomen. Then when he started his reply, it led him down the ovaries route, which made him look even more ridiculous.

That bollock-wearer Lammy is just an oppressive anti-woman dinosaur hoarding male privilege.

His answer was about transwomen and whether or not they could have a cervix. So he's saying that he doesn't believe TWAW.

The 'correct' answer to this (from the TRA point of view), which only Emily Thornberry seems to have understood, is to talk about transmen and that TMAM, some of them have a cervix, so it is transphobic to say that only women have a cervix.

All those MPs talking about transwomen in answer to this question are telling us all that they don't believe that TWAW.

Well, Mr Lammy, if your party based policy and messaging on what came up on the doorstep, it wouldn't have given this subject more than a moment's thought. But it based them on what TRA lobbyists and twitterati told it, and here you are.