Lammy… again!

When your in a hole, stop digging!

Arrogant little man. So rude to the very polite interviewer. Not a good look. at. all.

Jane Clare Jones has transcribed the whole thing.

twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1443287775235690500?s=19

'Trying to have a go at the interviewer for showing him up, outright lieing about it being brought up on the doorstep and trying the race card to get out of his own mess.'

Yep. She called him out on his bullshit, he didn't like it, and didn't have a leg to stand on, so he got nasty. Very admirable

He really is a f*king arrogant pr*k isen't he
Trying to have a go at the interviewer for showing him up, outright lieing about it being brought up on the doorstep and trying the race card to get out of his own mess.
The man is a f**king discrace and an embarrassment (I would say to his party but tbf that boat has pritty much sailed on all ofthem at this point)

She noted that she'd had several women who asked to speak to her in confidence about this.

Back election campaigning in 2019, before she was ever really aware of the issue, too, and before she'd ever addressed it.

Just watched Rosie Duffield on Glinner's youtube. Helen brought up Lammy's (?) claim that this issue doesn't come up on the doorstep. She noted that she'd had several women who asked to speak to her in confidence about this. Of course this doesn't happen to Lammy. No one thinks he would refrain from attacking them. If no one approaches him on this issue, maybe he should give that some thought.

RB: It's (concerns about women) coming from women within your own party. Do they not have a right to have a voice in this discussion?

DM: Well... .... ..., look... ... (then onto something else).

That is not a yes from DM then.

You'd imagine an MP would care about spouting false information on live media. What with the previous assertion that hormones and surgery give rise to a cervix in a male body (but probably not ovaries. Probably!).

And then saying he didn't say what he said. He pulled the 'talking over the interviewer' in his loud male voice and tetchy tone when she put it to him. Rachel Burden did a good job and didn't let him shut down the concerns of women.

This twitter thread was posted on one of the other threads about Lammy.
twitter.com/HairyLeggdHarpy/status/1049299981981470720

He was involved in the passing of the GRA in 2004. This is one of the parliamentary debates from that time.
api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/2004/feb/23/gender-recognition-bill#S6CV0418P1_20040223_HOC_222

He was intent on making everyone believe that the GRA would only ever apply to a tiny number of people and that there would be no problems. He's not new to this debate.

So, yes, just to confirm for everyone (because I went back and listened to the clip) David Lammy said "One in four trans people commit suicide." I think we all know that what he was meant to say was something like one in four trans people attempt suicide - which I think we would take issue with as a statistic anyway.

As other PPs have said on threads about these Labour interviews, I really would like journalists/interviewers to start pushing back or investigating this one-in-four statistic, mostly in terms of accuracy, but also in terms of the way it's being used in the debate, and the appropriateness of that. (i.e. This weird logical leap of "Trans people are at risk of suicide, therefore we should give them what they are requesting" and also whether there's a danger of encouraging suicidal ideation in trans people, thinking of The Samaritans' media guidelines on discussing suicide.)

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Lammy is black, and not that old, Angie1403.

Agree he has a shaky grasp of biology though.

I raised it on my doorstep to a Labour Party canvasser before the last general election.

And me.

I just can’t anymore with Labour I’m done. I was a Labour voter. Have been for the last 20 years. Parents both were Labour voters. The current state of the Labour Party for me is shameful. Never been a fan of David Lammy, but to hear an adult man who is married to a woman ans has three children doesn’t know the basic anatomical function of a woman’s reproductive system is just the bloody icing on the shit show cake that is Labour. Never comes up on the doorstep my arse. This is your doorstep look at what people are saying. I have never had anybody from the Labour Party knock on my door. But I have stopped a labour M.P on the street to speak to her about this issue. It was years ago. She was completely bemused, not a clue what I was on about.
Rayner makes me shudder. Atm the whole party just feels out of their depth. Like they are the victims and designers of some horrible political coup that’s been activated to render them unelectable from the inside. I listened to Starmer’s speech and all I could think was “this is supposed to be moving and I am not moved “ His attempts at a stiring almost thestricaly timed speech designed to communicate authenticity was bland. I really disliked the portrayal of his dad as the worker but his poor mum as just sick. Really irked me. The only one of them that I can muster any time for is Ashworth. I don’t think they can win an election. I think they need to all be removed from office and start again. It just gets worse and worse for women and girls. We need a new Labour movement. With a solid professional and capable base. Well educated and with working career experience in the real world. Who’s aims are the improvement of life conditions; health, education, and financial with an even hand that helps people raise themselves up out of poverty. Free from entryism That’s all we need. It shouldn’t be this hard.

Autocorrect does that to me too.

I think he’s muddled cervix with vagina, possibly.

namesnamesnamesnames Lammy did go to primary school in Tottenham before being awarded his chorister scholarship to be fair.

He even lived quite near Tottenham as an adult, but moved to the posher part of the borough when his children were approaching school age.

He's just had an application to convert one of the houses in the borough that he owns into flats to maximise rental income, presumably.

What a man of the people!

It just shows how little people understand female anatomy. No politician would go on telly and claim that a trans man could grow a prostrate.

Ha ha. X post!

To be candid, if the hon. Gentleman is suggesting that someone who sports a full beard would have their application for a gender recognition certificate granted, I wonder what world he is living in.

Amazing. That old law of unintended consequences eh?

"Lynne Jones: To be candid, if the hon. Gentleman is suggesting that someone who sports a full beard would have their application for a gender recognition certificate granted, I wonder what world he is living in"

Seems that the hon. gentleman was living in this world all along.