Labour councillor reveals she suffered 'transphobic abuse' at party conference

Edited that part out?

Of a live feed then available after?!

This is their conference. Loads of supporters can't be there in person. Watching the recording of all those who spoke is done to provide the full days action, as it were.

They have edited it?

What the hell? That feels wrong on all sorts of levels. Why would they cut out the impassioned statement about transphobic abuse when it's an important topic for the party?

Is it definite that's happened?

That feels really dishonest. I assume there's no note underneath to detail anything cut and why? Or even that they do edit?

To deny their supporters and anyone else who is interested the opportunity to see and hear all the speakers? Why? And that's a decision that would need to be agreed by quite a few people including some with some clout. I'd imagine.

Why have they cut out this segment where there was an impassioned press for trans rights and iirc more as well.

That is outrageous if they have done that esp without a note to advise viewers of the fact.

Ok so I can understand the victim may not see the point in reporting if they think it won’t be dealt with - which as it is a Labour conference seems odd, but whatever- after all no report doesn’t mean no abuse, but the witnesses keeping quiet on Twitter seems unlikely but ok, maybe in some (newfound) sense of respect for privacy no one feels able to discuss it in a public forum.

So I’m not saying it never happened but there’s a gaping hole where any evidence should be and perhaps it’s time for someone to come out and release a few details.

And that’s not happening.

I agree it would clarify matters if something a little more concrete was said.

But Pink News are still dicks for the hyperbole as they can’t say what was horrific about it unless they have details they are refusing to publish.

We are always being told we can report to the Police any incidents in the Women's, therefore the same applies to TW, yet nothing, nada.

Also, we are always being told that is a man wants to rape or assault us the sign on the door won't keep them out so the same applies to TW - the Women's won't be any safer.

It's not fear of physical assault or even verbal abuse that keeps them out of the Men's it's purely and simply that there is no validation available in there, women need to be used as the props in their validation.

Fionne Orlander always uses men's toilets. Says never experienced any abuse.

I can't imagine Patricia would.

In fact, has there ever been a report of a transwoman being assaulted in a men's toilet? I don't recall ever reading one.

Two different accounts though.

I wish Patricia would report it and/ or any witnessses would speak up.

I wonder what abuse they would have received if they had gone into a male toilet.

'Bloke in a frock?' In Brighton?

Nobody would give a fuck.

“ Excuse me, this is the ladies”

It's starting to resemble the Pakistani blasphemy law, where Person A alleges Person B wrote something horrid on a wall, which Person A immediately rubbed off, beause it was so terrible, and which they could not repeat, because it was so terrible. But Person B must be hanged.

Not only was it "transphobic abuse" it was "horrific transphobic abuse". No hyperbole there, no sir oops, ma'am.

And of course the person in question would not want to re-traumatise themself by saying exactly what this transphobic abuse was, so we all have to take their word for it. Convenient, eh?

@FrankieCH I better re-write that for you as the name Tim for some reason get an instand deletio

So, Frankie said;

Okay so the «horrific transphobic abuse» this person alleges never happened. The person went into the women’s toilets despite there being other sets of toilets for disabled people and more toilets for anyoneelse nearby. This was a staged incursion to allow the person to complain on the conference platform later. One woman quite calmly and politely said they were surprised to see a man in the ladies’ loos. If that’s « abuse» I wonder how the person would describe what happened to Sarah Everard at the hands of a strong, powerful male.

Thanks, Tiny. That's interesting. So the 'abuse' was somebody suggesting Patricia was obstructing the space with a mobility scooter? It doesn't sound even a whisper transphobic or abusive to me.

It sounds like someone doing their absolute damnedest to be awkward, confrontational, provocative and aggressive, in the hope that a woman would walk into the trap of responding in a way that could be painted as transphobic.

It sounds like someone who has issues with women, to be blunt, and is looking for an excuse to vent and rage.

I sincerely hope Patricia will explain further.

Soz, rogue sentence at the end (not from Shakespeare); "'There is an old phrase 'men were deceivers, ever"

I have read that this piece from Shakespeare could be interpreted as men being perfectly at ease in deceiving women, in order to get their own way in anything.

Yes, if I honestly stated who I viewed as the aggressor in this instance, I would also be deleted. I would also have hightailed it out of that space as I now apply the 'Be Kind' to women.

As usual, Shakespeare covers most things under the sun. Balthasar in 'Much Ado About Nothing'.

 Sigh no more, ladies, sigh no more,
 Men were deceivers ever,
 One foot in sea and one on shore,
 To one thing constant never.
 Then sigh not so, but let them go,
 And be you blithe and bonny,
 Converting all your sounds of woe
 Into Hey, nonny nonny.
 Sing no more ditties, sing no mo
 Of dumps so dull and heavy.
 The fraud of men was ever so,
 Since summer first was leavy.
 Then sigh not so, but let them go
 And be you blithe and bonny,
 Converting all your sounds of woe
 Into Hey, nonny nonny.There is an old phrase 'men were deceivers, ever"

In other words, if I said what I thought my post would be reported.

See! see! You have hurt me! Now you have to give me what I want!

@TinyRebel
So this is a witness account of the reason behind the narcissistic rage? Fgs. Sounds as if it’s all about getting off on “being” a women, validation and making women uncomfortable a plus. Couldn’t possibly used the accessible loos. Quilette article on the subject

Was in the queue behind me.

As ever, the relative shortage of female conveniences even when equal space is allocated because men can 'splash & dash' at the urinal but every woman requires a cubicle.

A transwoman with sisterly feelings might like to ponder that problem.