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I bloody love women

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Sexnotgender · 28/09/2021 15:19

Despite the absolute carnival of shite being thrown at us we are amazing.

That we can laugh even through this nonsense is fantastic.

Keep on keeping on. We will win and we will celebrate ❤️

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ChattyLion · 30/09/2021 13:22

Never too late Angie! Glitterball

Angie1403 · 30/09/2021 00:45

This is the stuff I came in mumsnet for. I feel like a lonely voice in the wilderness foisting unsolicited feminism on those around me. Example: male family member saying the patriarchy argument is made up. It can’t possibly be true apparently because his boss and their boss are both women; so therefore there is no patriarchy. He sees no correlation between the landscape of mostly male politicians/decision makers/business board members and the inability of women to be seen & heard. Thinks it’s all made up! I turned 50 this year and I think I’m only now finding my voice. Oh to have been this enlightened (& confident) decades ago. I’m sure I would have slain dragons!

SpringCrocus · 30/09/2021 00:01

Thanks, @ArabellaScott.

Feeling v bruised, tonight.

I'm early 60s, I lived through a lot of this shit. I really, honestly thought we had got equality, or at least nearer to it. And then, in the last few years wtf!!!

Councilworker · 29/09/2021 23:28

Not used it for a while so it's a bit dusty but I've found the right to maternity leave and to retain your job. It was packed up with outgrown baby clothes.

ArabellaScott · 29/09/2021 23:17

Flowers Spring.

SpringCrocus · 29/09/2021 23:15

I'm hanging on to my right that sex with my husband that I don't want, would be counted as rape post 1992. Even though he wouldn't have done this anyway. That's not the point.
I was raped repeatedly by my first husband and had no help from police, in the early 80s.

Oh and yes to the whole civil service married women losing establishment on marriage. That was still in place when I started work. Hanging on to that right, also.

And the separation of my tax filing.
And getting a mortgage on my own say so.
And oh so many rights, that are just normal life for men, that we had to fight SO FUCKING HARD to get.

I'm absolutely fucking incandescent with rage over all this.

TofuDelights · 29/09/2021 21:25

Not a right, as such, but I must fess up that I have been hoarding the right to wear a trouser suit, rather than a skirt suit, to work since 1992. Not that I've got a pocket in those trousers to hoard it in of course - I've been hoarding it in a special zippy pocket in my handbag.

Sorry.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/09/2021 20:32

OTOH, even the most righteous blue-haired aporagender maverique would be mighty unimpressed if served a mug of tea containing the white fluid from a bull rather than a cow.

GrinWine

GAHgamel · 29/09/2021 18:50

[quote CaveMum]He’s just tweeted complaining about journalists focussing on identity politics.

The ratio is beautiful!

twitter.com/davidlammy/status/1443131899652853760?s=21[/quote]
I haven't scrolled through all the comments on that thread, but I've not seen anyone mention this from a few days ago:
twitter.com/Nadine_Writes/status/1442517284069666816

How is being concerned about the number of black men (and specifically black MEN) in Parliament not identity politics, but being concerned about women's rights under the Equality Act is?

SpringCrocus · 29/09/2021 18:35

Oh yes, those also. As long as we stay quiet, while we do them.
Stepford Wives.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 29/09/2021 18:32

@SpringCrocus

Strikes me the only right they want to leave us with, is the right to remain silent
And other people's right to our services as support humans and as a source of narcissistic supply and validation?
SpringCrocus · 29/09/2021 18:27

Strikes me the only right they want to leave us with, is the right to remain silent

ArabellaScott · 29/09/2021 16:30

They do. And a reliable cervix informs me I have got the date wrong for one of those rights:

'1637: Amye Everard Ball is the first woman in England to be granted a patent (for making tinctures from flowers)'

Sorry, lads! I'll throw the right back into the fray as is right and proper, clearly we women have been holding onto that for WAY too long.

Artichokeleaves · 29/09/2021 16:20

Gawd these cervixes work hard, don't they?

OnlyTheLangOfTheTitberg · 29/09/2021 13:37

My cervix is chasing the right of women to graduate from university round the
garden. I tried to grab it but my arms are too short.

ArabellaScott · 29/09/2021 13:18

Good call on Brave New World. I read that alongside 1984 (and Zamyatin's 'We') so the three books tend to run together in my mind into a general mush of dystopian horror.

Maybe time to dust them all off and try again. I hoard books like I hoard rights, I should have them lying about somewhere, probably buried deep under a woman's right to register a patent (1768) or the ones I stole from Locris, Ancient Greece, because they looked so useful I couldn't resist:

'A free-born woman may not be accompanied by more than one female slave, unless she is drunk; she may not leave the city during the night, unless she is planning to commit adultery; she may not wear gold jewelry or a garment with a purple border, unless she is a courtesan'

Mochudubh · 29/09/2021 11:21

@TheElementsSong

Well as far as I can make out from all the incoherent burble emanating from our opposition government in waiting, if they're vets, engineers and lawyers they're probably NB, or else they're all dinosaurs.

I'm not sure vets are allowed, seeing as vets sure as hell need to identify male and female livestock. OTOH, even the most righteous blue-haired aporagender maverique would be mighty unimpressed if served a mug of tea containing the white fluid from a bull rather than a cow.

It's not often I genuinely spit my tea out but I did at that! 😂
334bu · 29/09/2021 11:17

Getting short shrift on Twitter.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 29/09/2021 11:11

[quote TatoAndBeans]@EmbarrassingAdmissions[/quote]
Well, quite. I can't think why this puts me in mind of the fox-killer and is breathtaking lack of insight into fox-killers own interactions with women who disagree with him.

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CaveMum · 29/09/2021 11:06

In future, instead of asking politicians that pop by for web chats what their favourite biscuit is, I propose asking them to label a diagram of the female reproductive system.

CaveMum · 29/09/2021 11:04

He’s just tweeted complaining about journalists focussing on identity politics.

The ratio is beautiful!

twitter.com/davidlammy/status/1443131899652853760?s=21

TatoAndBeans · 29/09/2021 10:54

@EmbarrassingAdmissions

I bloody love women
EmbarrassingAdmissions · 29/09/2021 10:44

@CaveMum

It appears from comments this morning that Mr Lammy thinks it’s possible for a Transwoman to grow their own cervix due to hormones

Perhaps we should help the poor confused dear out by printing off this diagram provided by Dr Emma Hilton and posting it to him?

Testosterone really does do amazing things to your confidence and self-belief without the tedium of ever needing to check.
ArabellaScott · 29/09/2021 10:43

@OperationDessertStorm

I’ve been hoarding the 1919 sex disqualification act which allowed women to become vets, engineers, lawyers etc. I think it’s about time I threw it out as times have changed and these are nowadays obviously men’s jobs and no one needs this act in there confusing people.
You might be able to hang onto that one, so long as you non-binarise yourself and realign your bodily self with your inner manly reality.
Sexnotgender · 29/09/2021 10:41

I prefer this one.

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