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"Queer birth" response from With Woman

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WarriorN · 28/09/2021 06:08

A group of peri and post natal support workers called Queer Birth recently wrote this.

www.queerbirth.com/

And this is an excellent response from With Women:

with-woman.org/2021/09/21/mothers-they-matter-however-they-identify-heres-why/

Apologies if this has already had threads, I couldn't see one when I looked.

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OldTurtleNewShell · 28/09/2021 07:21

I can't help thinking that queer birthing is just the next iteration of the birthing woo woo that I got from the NCT when I was pregnant.
That also minimised the actual physical stuff we needed to know, and focused on feelings instead.

somethinginoffensive · 28/09/2021 07:17

Oh that is a very poor document. LGBTQ aren't a homogeneous group so it gets confusing very quickly.

I did enjoy this gem

"To other perinatal workers we say - it is okay not to know. It is okay to seek further education and understanding of a community that you are not a part of. But how you do that matters. Paying LGBTQ+ people for their education, lived experience and time is a part of allyship. Demanding our labour, lived experience and past trauma’s surrounding our LGBTQ+ identities for free is problematic. It not only invalidates us, it retraumatises us. It takes our time and energy away from supporting other LGBTQ+ people and redirects it to your education. "
(my bold)

MsTSwift · 28/09/2021 07:15

The letter in response was great - the exasperation is clear and fair enough!

endofagain · 28/09/2021 06:59

I watched the recording of Baroness Nicholson's webinar yesterday. It included a very good explanation of Queer Theory, which is founded on changing and controlling language. This document is a perfect example. It is difficult to analyse something that is completely incomprehensible, with a jumble of meaningless words.

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WarriorN · 28/09/2021 06:52

It's an example of how language is becoming a confusing and politicised issue in perinatal and postnatal care, ultimately excluding many women but championed by a very small number of relatively privileged women.

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endofagain · 28/09/2021 06:21

That first document. I couldn't get through it tbh. My teeth were on edge at the first "folk" and it just got worse.