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More than one “woman” a week prosecuted for rape?!?!

492 replies

Cwenthryth · 27/09/2021 23:07

I just saw this on Twitter

twitter.com/profalices/status/1442415750497509380?s=21

Between 2012 and 2018, 436 individuals prosecuted for rape in England and Wales were recorded as women.
www.parliament.scot/chamber-and-committees/committees/current-and-previous-committees/session-6-citizen-participation-and-public-petitions-committee/correspondence/2021/pe1876_h-professor-alice-sullivan-submission-of-27-august-2021

I’m shocked at this statistic. Yes, a small proportion of these may be women charged with rape by joint enterprise. Prof Sullivan posted on Twitter she has requested to separate out those cases. But, as under the law in England and Wales, rape is a crime committed with a penis….. so these (alleged) rapists are “bodies with penises” being recorded as women in crime stats. So transwomen, right? So what does this mean….436 (alleged) transwomen rapists in 6 years? That is more than one a week. In England & Wales.

Have I misunderstood that? I’m really shocked.

OP posts:
timeisnotaline · 28/10/2021 00:35

@Wildfart

My point was that if OP walked into work on Monday and said this nonsense, they'd be fired.

No they wouldn't. You are wrong there.

I wouldn’t be fired. My work is pretty woke too.
timeisnotaline · 28/10/2021 00:35

@robinr66 And I literally, explicitly said that I thought trans people should be upset that some men are pretending to be trans to get into women’s prisons. It’s hardly a good look is it? You are ignoring everything we say that is the exact opposite of what you are claiming we say.

Wildfart · 28/10/2021 00:34

I regularly discuss this with my colleagues IN HR. We haven't fired each other.

Wildfart · 28/10/2021 00:33

My point was that if OP walked into work on Monday and said this nonsense, they'd be fired.

No they wouldn't. You are wrong there.

Wildfart · 28/10/2021 00:32

Ah, wrong barrister.

So this is just straight forward mansplainer of the gender neutral variety.

Data entry errors, no knowledge of the current position in prisons, makes up lies, and tries to drag in racism.

Bog standard.

robinr66 · 28/10/2021 00:31

Are you now denying that this is a threat? It certainly sounds threatening.

It's a real shame for you that this isn't Twitter. There's no deleting or editing posts here. If you make a threat (which you did), it stands for all to see.

Do I really have to explain this again? This was not a threat and its ridiculous to pretend that it was.

My point was that if OP walked into work on Monday and said this nonsense, they'd be fired. If they started banging on at a family dinner, they'd be shunned. No one would want anything to do with someone like OP.

If they tried this they'd quickly learn "the value society places" on this type of thing and they'd quickly learn what real consequences are. But they won't do that because they don't want the consequences.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 28/10/2021 00:30

12.30

Night all

MultiStorey · 28/10/2021 00:29

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Wildfart · 28/10/2021 00:29

A literal statement that men are pretending to be women so they can get into women's prisons to rape women.

Even the prison system is admitting this is happening.

For a barrister you are remarkably naive about criminal behaviour. Are you a contract lawyer or something. A bit out of your depth here?

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 28/10/2021 00:28

@ErrolTheDragon

Babdocs post is not saying trans women are only pretending to be women so they can rape men. It's saying men are liable to pretend be transwomen.
Abso-fucking-lutely
RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 28/10/2021 00:28

Dude, I don't get this. You do understand that we can all see the thread, right? You can't hide what was said

Evidence chum…

Where are people saying that transwomen don’t exist?

Who are the half dozen breaking cover?

ErrolTheDragon · 28/10/2021 00:27

Babdocs post is not saying trans women are only pretending to be women so they can rape men. It's saying men are liable to pretend be transwomen.

Wildfart · 28/10/2021 00:26

It’s amazing how you’re a barrister and you won’t debate your points.

A barrister!

Ho ho.

So all that "I've been gentle with you" is your legal patter is it?

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 28/10/2021 00:25

Oh just to clarify…that was to robin

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 28/10/2021 00:24

Dude

Youve got no fucking idea what I believe

Youve not taken the time to find out

And youve lied…constantly

No one at all has ever said that transwomen are purposefully saying they are trans just to rape women

Not one person

ErrolTheDragon · 28/10/2021 00:24

Multistorey - I thought this was a different robin, not the barrister (who I don't believe would make blasé claims about the figure just being bad data entry)

Reptar · 28/10/2021 00:21

No human can change sex. Its a ridiculous belief and its not one you can force us to agree with.

robinr66 · 28/10/2021 00:20

@RufustheBadgeringReindeer

its posting about how trans women are only pretending to be women so they can rape men

And no one has said this either

Dude, I don't get this. You do understand that we can all see the thread, right? You can't hide what was said. Just one example, on literally the first page of this thread, taking the roughly four seconds to find. I can't link to it for it some reason but this is the text and its on page 1:

20Babdoc

We can expect this to increase, as soon as rapists realise they only have to claim a trans identity in order to be locked up in a women’s prison, with plentiful access to vulnerable and traumatised potential further victims.
What rapist could resist the opportunity to force women to shower naked with them, or be locked in a cell with them overnight?
The UK justice system is subjecting women to conditions forbidden under the Geneva Convention for prisoners of war.
And idiot politicians are cheerleading it

A literal statement that men are pretending to be women so they can get into women's prisons to rape women.

And, before you try and lawyer this by saying "ah ha, it doesn't mention, trans women so it doesn't count! Unicorn claps!!", the thread has made it perfectly clear that you don't regard trans women as women. You regard them as men. So you don't make a distinction.

ErrolTheDragon · 28/10/2021 00:20

you know you're called Prosecco Stormfront, right? That's your nickname

Ah... the one coined by the 'Cis' woman who spectacularly unsuccessfully took a transwoman to court for alleged transphobia?

MultiStorey · 28/10/2021 00:20

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Waitwhat23 · 28/10/2021 00:19

@robinr66

Frankly, I think I've been pretty gentle with you - far more gentle than you have any right to expect, given your views.

Try saying some of this stuff to people in real life. You'll quickly learn a) what value society places on people like you and b) what real consequences are.

Are you now denying that this is a threat? It certainly sounds threatening.

It's a real shame for you that this isn't Twitter. There's no deleting or editing posts here. If you make a threat (which you did), it stands for all to see.

Wildfart · 28/10/2021 00:16

@RufustheBadgeringReindeer

its posting about how trans women are only pretending to be women so they can rape men

And no one has said this either

You are the only poster doing this.

We are objecting to male criminals claiming a female Identity. Do you support that option?

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 28/10/2021 00:15

Secondly, I wasn't talking about you

This is why you need to be clearer

Who are you talking about

Wildfart · 28/10/2021 00:14

When someone can literally post "trans women aren't women" over and over again and then outright deny that they've done that, you're clearly not operating in the sphere of sanity.

Not denying that. Transwomen are not women. It's an identity that men reassign to. Women are unable to be transwomen.

Quite straightforward.
Not particularly shocking. Prosecco is vastly overrated and if you get all your opinions from mimmybirthingparent, well it's no wonder that you are so confused.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 28/10/2021 00:14

Ive no idea who david duke is

Off to bed now…dd sitting up duty is over