Starker: Not only women have a cervix

Welcome to the Dark Side, ozzy. I'm afraid that once you've acknowledged that people's sex isn't changed by surgery, it's all downhill from there.

But you can cheer yourself up by going to t*rf meet-ups and so on.

Even though they have a uterus, ovaries, cervix, breasts and truly feels and believes they are a woman?

What gender you feel you are.

What does this mean? How would I know if I felt like a gender?

You've missed my exact point, of course you are a woman there is no doubt in your mind and my mind that it does not change your gender.

That is my entire point.

What decides what gender they are?

What does anyone's gender matter? It's sex that's important.

The existence of people with DSDs doesn't mean a man can become a woman just because he wants to.

There doesn't seem to be any problem at all with prostate cancer messaging being directed at 'men'. No outcry from transmen who don't have a prostate. No outcry from biological men who have already had their prostate surgically removed.

You HAD a cervix. Your body made one, because it's a female body.

I'm sorry for your injuries btw, sounds very traumatic.

*asking

That's what I'm along you. How do you define male and female if you don't think it's governed by chromosomes or organs?

ozzyteabiscuit If an individual has major surgery for health reasons and has uterus, ovaries, cervix removed, are they a woman?

Something about the way you phrase this suggests you think the answer is "yes". I agree, but this is awkward... How do I explain this...

CiaoForNiao Of course they are. Has anyone actually ever said otherwise?

Well, yes. The trans activists. This is the entire premise of transitional surgery, that if you remove a [person]'s uterus, ovaries, and cervix, they're not a woman any more.

And that if a [person]'s penis and testicles are removed, they're not a man any more.

Congratulations, Ozzyteabiscuit, you're a TERF too!

There are individuals with a cervix and uterus who have XY chromosomes

They believe they are women.

Are these individuals okay to come in women's spaces?

What decides what gender they are?

@Alekto an archaeologist would know you are a women if that is any comfort to you.

It is written into every part of you and cannot be erased.

@alekto sorry for your trauma I hope you are recovering well

You embody being a woman because in every cell in your body with DNA you are a woman with XX chromosomes. Those who seek to reduce women to body parts think that only a cervix or vagina is female, but it is every cell with DNA.

And forensic pathologists

Sex is one of first things that an archaeologist decides about a skeleton, there isn't a need for a single organ to be present do that.
There usually isn't the need to use dna analysis either post puberty.

So sorry Alekto

This garbage attracts some ghastly people.

And yet you see fit, @ozzyteabiscuit,
Despite your ridiculous posturing, and claims of inclusivity, you are nothing but a small minded, offensive, bigot.

She's right. That's exactly what you are.

Alekto I'm so sorry for your experience. For anyone to even suggest that the losing of your female reproductive organs might mean you are no longer a women is seriously insulting.

Trans men pose no threat to men in their spaces and so generally use male bathrooms etc without any issue.
Thee have been conflicts with some male only gay events however.

It depends if you think that Women means adult human female or you take the view that Women means a gender you choose to accept.

Only biological human females have cervixes. ( Obviously this doesn't mean all biological females have cervixes)

The vast majority of the population calls adult human females women. It isn't inclusive to reduce 50% of the population to body parts.

What are we going to call human females? They need some identification beyond body parts? XX maybe?

Nobody can deny they have certain organs, I just don't believe having those organs dictates whether you are male or female.

This is just ridiculous.

Definitely not voting for Labour. They can keep to their superwoke fanclub, their views repulse me.

If an individual has major surgery for health reasons and has uterus, ovaries, cervix removed, are they a woman?

I had a difficult birth with my second child. The traumatic injuries I received by the misused Kielland's forceps tore my cervix, amongst other things. After I crashed from undiagnosed blood loss, they opened me up and discovered the damage. I had an emergency hysterectomy, losing uterus, one ovary, and my cervix. My husband was told to visit me on ITU, to say his goodbyes, incase I didn't survive.

And yet you see fit, ozzyteabiscuit, to come here and tell me I might not be a woman? Despite your ridiculous posturing, and claims of inclusivity, you are nothing but a small minded, offensive, bigot.