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Starker: Not only women have a cervix

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WildRunner · 26/09/2021 21:17

This has made me cross.

Labour conference: Not right to say only women have a cervix, says Starmer www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58698406

I'm about to go for my smear test. Any man who feels like a woman is welcome to have a speculum inserted into his non-existent cervix - as long as it isn't at the expense of appointments for biological women.

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Kittii · 26/09/2021 21:53

No. Males do not have XX chromosomes. This is even in my Y7's science textbook.

MidsomerMurmurs · 26/09/2021 21:52

How do you "identify" as male? Or as "female" Do you know what those words mean?

ozzyteabiscuit · 26/09/2021 21:49

Why are people so threatened by inclusivity. It does not affect you at all. It could make a huge difference to the lives of transgender individuals though.

Your opinion of the term trans man doesn't change what it means.

Trans man is an individual with XX chromosomes who identifies as male. That's a fact, just because you don't agree with the term doesn't change the context of the article. Just offering some wisdom so there is no confusion regarding appointments being given to individuals who don't have a cervix because that isn't what is happening.

EdgeOfACoin · 26/09/2021 21:49

I'm not remotely alienated by the term 'individuals with a cervix' because I am an individual with a cervix.

That's because you are a woman Smile

Kittii · 26/09/2021 21:48

@ozzyteabiscuit you don't speak for all women. Most of us don't like being reduced to our body parts. We are women not "cervix havers".

2319inprogress · 26/09/2021 21:46

@ozzyteabiscuit

A trans man is a male who was born female so may have a vagina and a cervix and therefore still need a cervical exam.
Nope. A transman is a woman who identifies as a man. Still & always female.
ozzyteabiscuit · 26/09/2021 21:46

@Kittii

Do you not think that calling women "individuals with a cervix" alienates women (over 50% of the population)?
I'm not remotely alienated by the term 'individuals with a cervix' because I am an individual with a cervix. It's inclusive.
EdgeOfACoin · 26/09/2021 21:45

@ozzyteabiscuit

A trans man is a male who was born female so may have a vagina and a cervix and therefore still need a cervical exam.
A transman who needs a smear test is an adult human female.

There is a word for adult human female that begins with the letter 'w'.

Franca123 · 26/09/2021 21:45

Yep. Tory all the way. Never thought I'd say that. Wtaf is happening.

Kittii · 26/09/2021 21:44

Do you not think that calling women "individuals with a cervix" alienates women (over 50% of the population)?

Kittii · 26/09/2021 21:43

@ozzyteabiscuit

A trans man is a male who was born female so may have a vagina and a cervix and therefore still need a cervical exam.
Males cannot become female. You cannot have a "male who was born female". You cannot change your chromosomes from XY to XX.
ozzyteabiscuit · 26/09/2021 21:39

They're not suggesting transgender women who don't have a cervix go and have a smear test. That would be ridiculous. You seem to have misunderstood. They suggest merely saying 'individuals with a cervix' so as not to alienate transgender men who also have a cervix and therefore need to have cervical exams for their own safety. They're not taking away appointments from women just suggesting a change in the language used to be inclusive.

ozzyteabiscuit · 26/09/2021 21:34

A trans man is a male who was born female so may have a vagina and a cervix and therefore still need a cervical exam.

GingerCake2018 · 26/09/2021 21:19

Will I guess I'm a conservative voter from now on!

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