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Jaysmith71 · 2021-09-26T08:47:29+00:00

We must have a tolerent debate.... Trans community are the most marginalised community of all ....and 'Only women have a cervix' is, "Something that should not be said."

Limer · 26/09/2021 10:53

I saw this too, and am delighted there is already an excellent thread about it!

KS isn't stupid, but he's just parroting the usual Labour line of defending the smallest minority, without even considering the basic facts. Didn't Labour learn anything from Rotherham etc?

Lettera · 26/09/2021 10:52

I was also disgusted at Starmer saying several times that Rosie Duffield would be safe at conference - in effect chucking her even further under the bus by implying very clearly that she's making a fuss about nothing.

Svalberg · 26/09/2021 10:50

@Judashascomeintosomemoney Rosie Duffield won Canterbury in 2017 with a majority of 187, and increased it in 2019 to over 1,800

Whatdidijusthear · 26/09/2021 10:50

And this in a week when another WOMAN tragically murdered. But at least we’re not the most marginalised people in society eh?

ThatSunnyCorner · 26/09/2021 10:49

@Mollyollydolly

just waiting for him to post on twitter so a thousand women can post 'only women have a cervix' in the replies. Feck 'em.

I've done it already, didn't wait for him to post.

littlbrowndog · 26/09/2021 10:46

More😖😖😖

2319inprogress · 26/09/2021 10:46

Ahh how we remember the good old days when they just wanted us to wait until after to revolution to get to women's rights

littlbrowndog · 26/09/2021 10:46

😖

yourhairiswinterfire · 26/09/2021 10:45

''Most marginalised'', but this whole thing has politicians like Keir here too scared to acknowledge that women have a cervix. Too afraid to tell the truth, and telling us we shouldn't tell the truth either.

So marginalised, but can get women sacked for telling the truth, or removed from uni and investigated for saying women have vaginas. Meanwhile we heard nothing more about the trans uni student posing with guns and implying Marion Millar should be shot, nor about the trans student reading his paper fantasising about holding a knife to women's throats.

Yeah, so marginalised, so oppressed. Hope Keir enjoys losing.

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Jaysmith71 · 26/09/2021 10:45

Conducting the debate 'in a proper and respectful way' by agreeing that the other side are in the right.

Yep. Back to my school RE lessons, where I got a detention for saying "This god of yours."

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dyslek · 26/09/2021 10:45

@Theeyeballsinthesky

He’s a mealy mouthed hypocrite. He’s knows exactly what a woman is

Why is every political party in this country such a binfire?

And yes I’m sick to death of “the most marginalised evah” line. Ppl are sleeping on the streets, there are ppl with learning difficulties in care homes who haven’t seen their families in months, there are single parents living on benefits in mould infested shit holes. No one’s lighting up buildings for them are they? Or getting a list celebrities tweeting about how much help they need meanwhile every magic circle law firm & finance institution in the country along with the NHS, the media & local government are fully on board with TWAW

most marginalised ever my fat wobbly arse!!

I think thats one of the points, you can virtue signall without actally challanging anything that the wealthy care about.

ElizabethTudor · 26/09/2021 10:43

I am finding it mildly amusing, though, that KS has been autocorrected on this thread to Keith and Keri!

Datun · 26/09/2021 10:42

@Thingybob

Just discussed this with a reasonably intelligent married man, educated to degree level and works at a professional level. His response was "what's a cervix? If he doesn't know how are we supposed to educate children without using the word woman?

Not only do many people not know what a cervix is, there is no way of identifying who has one if you cant talk about biology.

If I have two children, which, if any, do I talk to about future smear tests? What am I basing it on??

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 26/09/2021 10:42

@ThatSunnyCorner

Labour has always traditionally done well with younger voter. Younger women, on the whole are more likely to be TRA. Like all political parties running up to an election they are only interested in votes. Labour is a lost cause on this issue.

This. I don't think he's believes what he is saying for a single second, but Labour's only hope is the vote of young people. He's trying to appeal to them. Whilst throwing women under the bus. Clearly we are expendable collateral damage and that'll be yet another spoiled ballot from me.

Which is why he will never speak up for Rosie Duffield. Labour only won Canterbury, with a tiny margin and after more than a century of right wing party allegiance, because of the successful mobilisation of the youth vote at the university campus (overlooking the methods they employed

). I doubt they’ll win again with Rosie standing as MP, and certainly not if the party leadership back her. Definitely under bus throwing.

Imnobody4 · 26/09/2021 10:40

Here's a transcript from Mirror journalist. I can't believe he can be so stupid.

Faffertea · 26/09/2021 10:35

*Keir

Faffertea · 26/09/2021 10:35

Well he’s shit the bed on that one hasn’t he?
After last week’s response the Ed Davey’s comments you’d think anyone serious about becoming PM would have looked at that and seen an opportunity. But no.
And how dare he tell us what can and can’t be said? Fuck off with that Keri.
You’re a disappointing excuse for a prostate haver and no leader at all.

Tabitha005 · 26/09/2021 10:35

@NorthernNic

That's the final straw. Despite my reservations I voted Labour at the last GE but not now. For future elections what are writing on soiled ballots? Only Women Have A Cervix??

@NorthernNic - same. Labour have lost my vote and I have nowhere to put it. I'm officially politically homeless for the first time in my voting life.

TrifleCat · 26/09/2021 10:34

So now we are stuck with a Tory government for the foreseeable.

Fucking arseholes. When will Labour ditch this??

OvaHere · 26/09/2021 10:34

So sick of hearing politicians spout this most marginalised crap when the whole ideology is the epitome of luxury beliefs.

Datun · 26/09/2021 10:33

Can someone please explain to me how the ‘Trans community are the most marginalised community of all.’

Its risible. Rapists in women's prisons, men beating women (and beating them up) in sport and knowing that rape and death threats go unsanctioned, are the polar opposite of marginalised.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/09/2021 10:33

He’s a mealy mouthed hypocrite. He’s knows exactly what a woman is

Why is every political party in this country such a binfire?

And yes I’m sick to death of “the most marginalised evah” line. Ppl are sleeping on the streets, there are ppl with learning difficulties in care homes who haven’t seen their families in months, there are single parents living on benefits in mould infested shit holes. No one’s lighting up buildings for them are they? Or getting a list celebrities tweeting about how much help they need meanwhile every magic circle law firm & finance institution in the country along with the NHS, the media & local government are fully on board with TWAW

most marginalised ever my fat wobbly arse!!

HappyGoPlucky · 26/09/2021 10:31

It would be really lovely if we could have a conversation about women's rights without it always being moved straight to trans rights after about 10 seconds.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/09/2021 10:30

toddler politics that would be ...

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/09/2021 10:30

Keir's decided to support toddler policitcs:

No mummy, naughty mummy, don't say that word mummy . It's so bloody tedious and makes him look like a prat.