Starmer on Marr now

Quick competency check right there. Useful.

It’s so ironic that they want to live life by gender stereotypes after all the work done to try to break those down.

Labour are playing a dangerous game in trying to appeal to the young woke contingent as it is typically the older generation who turn out and vote.

I had hoped for better from Keir but it seems like labour don’t want to win the election whereas the Tories are masters at this stuff, they smell blood and will be ruthless on the attack.

This generation may want to believe that Gender is a social construct BUT Hormones and female / male anatomy is not a social construct and is a Biological construct.

I voted Count Binface in the London mayoral elections. That shows how much faith I have in, Labout, tories and lib dems.

I wasn't aware that when you transitioned they gave you a cervix...

I’m really quite frightened and I’m shocked to hear myself say that.

Cracking quote from the Spiked article: 'All the talk of cervixes and other biological realities is offensive, apparently, to people with a cock and balls and five o’clock shadow who want to be women, too.'

And that's it, in a nutshell.

My theory is that Labour don't actually want to be in power at the moment. I don't know why.

With covid, brexit, economic instability etc, would you want to be in charge? Labour is copping out. We deserve a party, with sane policies, that wants to dig in and work our way out of this mess.

It's this 'most marginalised' crap that keeps getting trotted out.

I got used to that a few years ago. It’s been disproved so many times, it’s just not funny.

Homeless people sleeping on the streets?
Old people who haven’t had a visitor since covid began?
Women traumatised by male violence but not daring to use a DV shelter because it admits men?
No, not marginalised at all ….

But I can’t believe a political leader still believes the same uninformed nonsense that was disproved years ago. It has to be deliberate. Starmer is worse than a disappointment.

The section of Jean's letter in which she shows how a TA tried to 'appropriate' the list of women murdered each year by saying some of them may have been misgendered and that they should only be regarded as 'people' is utterly chilling. She's quite right to lay that at Keir Starmer's door.

Good article on Spiked about this

www.spiked-online.com/2021/09/26/now-spineless-starmer-wont-even-defend-biological-reality/

Just waiting confidently for the short film to clarify the statements, correct misunderstandings and reassure women, as they did for trans activists...

...and waiting...

Yes, @SpindleWorld, I clocked that and was a bit about the writer's beliefs.

Javid's Twitter feed was full of TRAs in response!

That Times article linked by @Igneococcus is interesting.

The writer Eleni C says that Javid 'contradicted' NHS advice with his tweet because the NHS tells trans men to go for cervical smear tests. But Javid doesn't contradict it at all, because he would appear to believe that trans men are women, a belief he is legally entitled to hold. It a further position which is biologically correct, as one would expect of the Health Secretary.

I am troubled that Rosy Duffield says she has been threatened by activists-that's no way to do politics, and it's a shame in the party if it is true. Although I'd like to see the detail, as it's so hard to trust what politicians say these days.

Not only is it true, but you'll be able to see the evidence of it on Twitter if you search her name.

I'd still vote labour, although I think their leader is a donkey.

I'm troubled by what's been happening. I don't want trans people discriminated against but I'm never in this world going to pretend that they have a cervix, or that they are actual women. But I'd happily eat dinner with one.

I am troubled that Rosy Duffield says she has been threatened by activists-that's no way to do politics, and it's a shame in the party if it is true. Although I'd like to see the detail, as it's so hard to trust what politicians say these days.

We also need women's rights. So I can't vote Labour.

I will still vote Labour. We need the Tories out. We need the NHS and the Tories are stealing it from us. I can't stand Keir Starmer. But ..

Times article:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ff088f68-1efd-11ec-a1fd-37d9030e4d65?shareToken=11ba1ade7d2a686b7711c892fcda75f3

Maria MacLachlan"s take on the interview. I'm always feels like I've watched a well planned and delivered lecture after watching Maria, she's so coherent.

Brilliant letter Jean Hatchet. I'm with you all the way.

Ditto Carole - somewhat less eloquent but exquisitely to the point.

I'm beyond angry. And the Welsh woksters will be rubbing their little hands with glee. Open season on misogyny in the Labour Party.