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Pronoun declarers: is "bodies with vaginas" OK, too far, just right?

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 25/09/2021 10:37

The Lancet has chosen to replace the word for the sex class of women with bodies with vaginas but still refers to men rather than bodies with penises . Do you see this as:

– a much needed progression;
– something you wholeheartedly support in its entirety;
– something that makes you a bit uncomfortable;
– in need to correction so that men are scrotum-havers or bodies with penises;
– something you facilitated but didn't intend;
– an unrelated issue to your choice to use pronouns in your email sigs etc.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4357954-The-lancet-on-periods-bodies-with-vaginas

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purplejungle · 25/09/2021 11:29

I know this board is meant to be an echo chamber where we all leave you to your views... but since you asked explicitly, no it doesn't bother me in the slightest. There are so many more issues that are worth actually worrying about.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 25/09/2021 11:26

We don’t refer to living people as bodies.

It seems medical advocates do - black birthing bodies and all.

Black birthing bodies need — and deserve — radical solutions, not just sympathy.

Maternal mortality is desperate and the disparities in outcomes are a scandal. I'm awaiting my education on why dehumanisation is the strategy of choice.

www.refinery29.com/en-us/black-maternal-mortality-solutions

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HatsOnHatsOff · 25/09/2021 11:25

I think I might have to identify as a trans woman so I can describe myself as a woman

OhDear2200 · 25/09/2021 11:24

@Deliriumoftheendless Grin

HatsOnHatsOff · 25/09/2021 11:24

Oh yes, sorry forgot. No one is allowed to say adult human female any more, lest they be accused of hate speech.

Deliriumoftheendless · 25/09/2021 11:23

@OhDear2200

My right arm feels left out and excluded.

From OhDear2200
Pronoun: bodywitharms

And my left arm feels right out.

(I identify as Groucho Marx today.)

MrsOvertonsWindow · 25/09/2021 11:23

Grin Grin

HatsOnHatsOff · 25/09/2021 11:22

Unbelievable. The double standard is so obvious, why oh why can't they see that? Why can't thet the word woman be used? Is what I am so terrible it cannot be described?
Altogether now, the dictionary definition of a woman is....

OhDear2200 · 25/09/2021 11:20

My right arm feels left out and excluded.

From OhDear2200
Pronoun: bodywitharms

Deliriumoftheendless · 25/09/2021 11:16

@Jaysmith71

At least it isn't 'people with vaginas' which could be anatomists with a collection in glass jars.
That’s right, it’s totes inclusive of all animals with vaginas which is of course excellent for the progression of human rights #catslivesmatter
WildWombat · 25/09/2021 11:10

It's unbelievably crass and stupid. End of. So the word 'men' is still allowed but there's something shameful and bad about the word 'woman' that means it (and us) should be erased from the face of the earth? Yep, that's progression right there. Progression right back to the dark ages. Who are the idiots who come out with this stuff?!

Jaysmith71 · 25/09/2021 11:07

At least it isn't 'people with vaginas' which could be anatomists with a collection in glass jars.

MarshmallowSwede · 25/09/2021 11:05

A body ..So a corpse? A body with a vagina… a dead woman?

We don’t refer to living people as bodies. The word is woman.

Yes this is dehumanizing and too far. It’s not progression, it’s regressive. If we can’t even say the word woman who is this helping? It’s not helping women at all.

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