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Men voicing their gender ideology concerns on Twitter tonight

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SocialConnection · 24/09/2021 23:55

Over on Twitter, @WomenReadWomen has asked a simple question - and crucially she's asked it of

'men who disagree with gender ideology ...

what is your main concern?'

And men's replies; polite, reasonable, thoughtful; are coming in their several hundreds so far.

Please share with the chaps in your life and ask them to join these men who are speaking up.

Oddly enough there don't seem to be many bellowing accusations of terfery and transphobia in the comments below their responses.

Men voicing their gender ideology concerns on Twitter tonight
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MrsOvertonsWindow · 25/09/2021 06:45

It's hard to know whether it's because this is my priority so I look for it, but I'm always heartened to see so many men identify risks to children. With an ideology that has deliberately recruited so many children, it's good to see men identifying the safeguarding risks to children - although I suspect these might be primarily fathers.

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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 25/09/2021 05:46

This news is encouraging. My main concern is the harm to children and women. But the other wrongs are important too, and if they provoke more men to oppose the ideology, it all helps wake people up.

JustSpeculation · 25/09/2021 05:31

"Recurring items were -

Denial of science/ reality
Suppressing of free speech (no debate)
Authoritarianism
Gaslighting /being told to accept lies as truth"

Yes, that's what dragged me in. Mainly the bullying and coercion. I hate bullying and coercion. Only after that did I get the safeguarding and women's rights issues. Starting with JKR's essay and my son's surprisingly thoughtless, uncritical reaction to it, which led me here, and from here to a myriad other links and books.

NiceGerbil · 25/09/2021 03:30

For women the issues are obvious and anger is growing.

The most pressing current issue is the impact of women and girls.

However not everyone really gives a toss about us so yes. Other things are involved that COULD lead to other issues for sure.

LobsterNapkin · 25/09/2021 03:23

@NiceGerbil

Had s look through whole bunch at beginning and very very interesting.

Harm to women comes up and children too but it's not the number one for many.

Recurring items were -

Denial of science/ reality
Suppressing of free speech (no debate)
Authoritarianism
Gaslighting /being told to accept lies as truth

I wonder if it's time to start focusing on more stands then the impact on women and girls. That's massive obv but often seen as 'women's issues' and many men tune out. Putting some focus on additional areas which might engage more of an audience might be productive? I mean lots of people don't care much about women anyway sadly. I mean bad things happen to us all the time anyway it's in the news all the time. Nothing changes what can be done.

Thoughts?

Yes.

I've said this a few times here, gender ideology is only one element of a wider, very problematic social movement that includes all kinds of authoritarian tendencies, denials of reality, bad argumentation.

Lots of people are drawn in because they see what is happening in some area that touches their lives. Academic freedom, democratic representation, etc.

Not only will highlighting these things appeal to a wider group of people, gender ideology is not just about some sort of misogyny, it's about a whole set of beliefs. As long as people think that way, it will always have a foothold.

NiceGerbil · 25/09/2021 02:13

Had s look through whole bunch at beginning and very very interesting.

Harm to women comes up and children too but it's not the number one for many.

Recurring items were -

Denial of science/ reality
Suppressing of free speech (no debate)
Authoritarianism
Gaslighting /being told to accept lies as truth

I wonder if it's time to start focusing on more stands then the impact on women and girls. That's massive obv but often seen as 'women's issues' and many men tune out. Putting some focus on additional areas which might engage more of an audience might be productive? I mean lots of people don't care much about women anyway sadly. I mean bad things happen to us all the time anyway it's in the news all the time. Nothing changes what can be done.

Thoughts?

Branleuse · 25/09/2021 00:58

Interesting

CorianderAndCream · 25/09/2021 00:57

Wow. How wonderful to see so many men defending women and girls. Truly refreshing to see that so many care and also worry for our single sex spaces. Maybe I spend too much time on TikTok reading the vitriol young men write.

Freespeecher · 25/09/2021 00:50
  1. Safeguarding.

(ends)

PanicPrevention · 25/09/2021 00:25

Have you got a link op?

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