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Just had a row with a friend

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MordenLarch · 24/09/2021 22:12

Just saw one of my oldest friends -talk turned to the gender debate (drunkly). Quickly turned into a row. He was saying:

  • this is a niche issue - why don’t you use your anger against climate change?
  • give me facts and figures about how many women are abused in prisons/DV shelters etc - I’m sure it’s not many
-you’ve been told this is an issue by the right wing press etc
  • you’re old fashioned - lots of young people are behind this

Etc etc

Am I alone I’m thinking that people (especially on the left) just don’t get this?!

When pressed he didn’t think that people with a penis are women.

He didn’t seem to give a shit that women’s rights as a biological class of human are being systematically eroded.

What has happened to people?!

Sorry - am ranting!

OP posts:
Kittii · 24/09/2021 22:20

I think that male privilege means that many men really have no idea how vulnerable women are to male violence. Most women have experienced sex discrimination, unwanted sexual advances and many, many women have experienced sexual assault. Most men don't realise how vulnerable women feel e.g. walking or running alone or going out at night. They're just not aware as they've not experienced it themselves. Of course, some are aware and just don't care or think that it hardly ever happens so its not a big deal. Some men feel defensive when male violence is talked about as they feel they are being painted with the same brush.

MonsignorMirth · 24/09/2021 22:20

When pressed he didn’t think that people with a penis are women.

So he is happy for all spaces to be mixed-sex then, and can't imagine why anyone has a legitimate objection to this.

Sounds like a lot of spluttering to deflect from the fact he's a huge misogynist.

Perdigal · 24/09/2021 22:17

I'm liberal but people with a penis aren't women - think about that logically they aren't women. Totally agree they identify as women and that's not a problem but they aren't women. You can think of women's "eroded" rights and not accept that fact.
I still believe people that identify as women should be accepted- but they aren't women.

DismantledKing · 24/09/2021 22:13

Does he have a beard?