'For more than five decades, she identified as male.'

Guardian went down the rabbit hole a while ago.

I started to read it; thought 'oh bollox' and gave up. I read the Grauniad for years but stopped because it's just so out of touch. Although I suspect that The Graun would think that I haven't seen the light.

Myers Briggs! That really is nonsense.

I hope that one day we will find less insulting language to describe this process. It may even be that Diana didn't use that language herself. Sandhurst was after all only open to men until 1984, and Diana fathered children. She may have said that she was a man, she may even have said that she still is. I frankly don't trust Guardian journalists writing colour pieces not to influence the language used.

Interesting becoming a priest.
I wonder what would happen if the Pope decided to transition?

It's an interesting one in a way, because in Graun-speak, 'identifying as' means you ARE. So they are saying she was a man? So the opposite to all the TRAs that say TW have always actually been women?

Well they should be at home in the priesthood. It's all remarkably similar whether it's inner souls or inner gender.

I wonder what the kids think?

The kids and the wife are always shadows in these stories. As for Penny looking down ... the kindest thing I can say is that's very wishful thinking.

Is the article's language correct?

I don't know if 'correct' is the right word. It's inaccurate, unscientific, and doesn't make sense. But it's the Guardian, so it's probably 'correct'.

writing like this makes womanhood as something you choose, a lifestyle choice

Yes, I agree. Although people who ascribe to gender identity seem to think that 'gender' is an innate feeling that we are born with - hence the phrase 'born in the wrong body' (which I find quite ridiculous. Who or what is in the body?). At the same time, gender can be 'fluid' - changeable - according to this ideology.

You won't get any argument from most on these boards that we are born one sex and remain that sex, no matter how we 'identify'.

I would say the language is correct if you accept that your gender is up to you (I don't).

In that sentence "she" implies the person is a woman now, not that the person was a woman at the time they identified as a man.

I don't think 'For more than five decades, the teacher was a scientist' implies the person was a teacher and scientist simultaneously.

I read that earlier and did the biggest eye roll.....typical pandering nonsense of the Guardian.

I guess churches are more desperate for people than ever, although something tells me this guy will be preaching more about his brave and stunning feelings than about religion. If you think about it, having a congregation is just another way to have followers who listen to you.

And yes, I always think about the wife left behind too, I'm sure she is delighted .

I was really sad about the wife in this story. She’d died very young, and the subject of the article transitioned much later, so the wife is now being described as “her wife” which implies a lesbian marriage but of course, no one knows what she would have made of it.

Sadly the Guardian's not really a serious campaigning newspaper any more so I'm generally sceptical of all these froth pieces. I mean Whatever bright colour you can think of. That’s my faith

OP, there's a thread called "break it down for me" somewhere on here that's quite helpful. And the final comments seem fairly typical:
My adventure is about to start. And I dare say, so is theirs That's a real reflection of self absorption with no interest shown in the congregation and their needs.

It’s mad. This person was a man presenting as a man. After some form of epiphany, in terms of gender and, apparently, religion, they are still a man albeit presenting as a woman (if we are to #be kind and accept that adopting stereotypes of gender = presenting as a woman).

You can’t refer to a male person as ‘identifying as’ male; they simply are male-immutably so.

I completely agree with you, but the Guardian is well known as being uber "progressive". It's all just bollocks really.