Emma Nicholson Webinar 11am today (Friday 24th September)

Lord Wasserman says later in the recording that MPs wont put their heads above the parapet because they don't want to fall out with their children.

FFS

Thanks for posting the link Ova. I was intending to look for this as I missed it live, but I’d totally forgotten to follow up. It’s a fantastic watch.

Bumping this, as I'm watching it and it is great.

Helen is furious. Quite rightly. (I think she almost swore, but stopped herself )

Bumping for the evening crowd. Please have a watch especially the first video. Really informative discussion.

The videos of these webinars are now on YouTube.

Well worth watching.

Yes yes, such a shame that Stephen Timms MP was only on a phone and had to leave.

He clearly has NO CLUE about the silencing of women's voices on the BBC, on this issue. And presumably he has no knowledge of the nonsense that the bBC are feeding children (I am Leo etc). If he had hung around a bit longer, our wonderful speakers might have been able to tell him what is going on.

I do hope that he watches the replay of the webinar?

Anybody waiting for the sympathetic BBC or MSM coverage that explains to us why this is absolutely inclusive but there's no need to adopt comparable dehumanisation for men?

The Lord Wasserman comment wasn't actually relating to MPs, it was about PCCs. He had had a meeting of Conservative PCCs. They said that they were under pressure from their children not to speak on this issue.

Yes the Baroness did say that they should not then be in parliament, and was corrected, but her point was so good. Lord Wasserman then said "We are in big trouble if the PCCs are unable to speak out".

Graham Linehan then rephrased it very well by saying "adults are being held hostage by their children. They need to stand up to their children. They are going to get women killed."

Quote may not be word perfect, it's from my notes. I noted it down as I'm trying to arrange a mtg with my PCC right now!!

"is it time to repeal the GRA for its unintended consequences for the rights of women and children."

This is a good site to read some reasons why repeal of the GRA should be looked at.

Link to website

Worth a read.

I watched it too. All the speakers are fantastic. This session in particular I thought Helen's speech was blistering. She spoke of her anger at people in safeguarding paid good money not doing their jobs. She talked of cowardice. I thougth she was really excellent. Lord Wasserman says later in the recording that MPs wont put their heads above the parapet because they don't want to fall out with their children. Emma says then they "have no business being in parliament". Such straight talking. Such a relief to hear. The minutes and recording usually go up on the website a few days after the meeting.childrenandwomenfirst.org/

Thanks all. In my building we had a big Pride rainbow installation in the lobby. A few years ago it would have brought a huge smile to my face. Now, I see it as a symbol of coersion and oppression of women.

Thanks for the youtube links. Glad I'll be able to catch up, these are important discussions.

The bit about question 3 about publicly-funded institutions displaying Pride flags and Stonewall stuff is that it's a political statement where they should be apolitical and completely neutral eg police and NHS. Makes people feel vulnerable approaching them as they may be judged transphobic and hounded or refused help

Had to miss the second half, but the first part was superb. All these intelligent impassioned people speaking clearly and with consideration - no obfuscation, no exaggeration, no histrionics. This is the kind of clear headed discussion we need.

PatsArrow did a better job, I should have refreshed after looking through my notes.

1 As the GRA was passed for particular purposes (to allow same sex marriage, I don't think she mentioned pensions) and that is now available, is it time to repeal the GRA for its unintended consequences for the rights of women and children.

2 Language. If captured organisations like the BBC refuse to acknowledge woman: adult human female except to call it a controversial statement, and police forces and the press abide by self-identity to record crimes, then how can we have a public discussion that everybody understands.

3 De-integrating Stonewall and the influence of lobby groups from captured institutions like the NHS, the House of Lords, the judiciary in the form of training and the ETBB etc.

I can't remember her exact phrasing but it was (please someone correct me if I'm wrong).

1/ When are Parliament going to debate repealing the GRA? It is no longer fit for purpose.

2/ when are politicians going to get brave and start using language that reflects reality? 'Cis ' woman etc has seeped into everyday language. This lead onto discussion about language used in legal cases (raped women being made to refer to their rapists as women if thats was the rapists wishes etc) Media language and reporting etc.

3/ When will Parliament look into how ALL our public institutions are displaying and promoting the political symbols of the Pride colours? Posie argued that the Pride colours have become synonymous with her feeling that they do not support women or children (not great when encountering them do prominently all over a hospital for example)

The questions all prompted huge discussion.

Hope this one goes online soon, missed the second half had to go out and pick the dog up. It was really good. One of the things that makes me bloody furious is that all these good, intelligent, compassionate people are called bigots. It's unbelievable.

I missed her 3 questions. What were they?

I missed it, had to work. Where does the recording go?

Amazing Webinar. The best yet. Everyone spoke well but Helen Joyce and Posie stood out for me. Posie has that ability to put things simply and cut through a lot of crap. Her 3 questions (just 3!) really struck a chord with everyone.

Yeah, the bish needs a few tweets inviting him to suck lady dick, and then we'll see.

The Bish doesn't get it. Beeeee kiiiiinnnnddd