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DisgustedofManchester · 2021-09-23T11:04:07+00:00

Apologies if this is a repost as I know how many people in these fora are concerned about the health and well being of women in prison. Since it happened in 2019 I am sure there is a long thread about it but David Lammy rightly brought it to light again this week. pre and ante natal care in prisons is pretty disgusting, its almost as though most people do not care. [[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58646499]]

ArabellaScott · 23/09/2021 13:04

I'm afraid racism seems to coexist with the misogyny, quite often, Fariha. Posters are of course free to start these threads themselves, or post elsewhere, or to do something constructive, but seems they would rather come and sneer and insult the women on this board, for some reason.

Fariha31 · 23/09/2021 13:02

David Lammy is the MP we can thank for women being locked up with rapists.

ArabellaScott · 23/09/2021 13:01

Using this tragedy to beat and berate other women with. I am utterly furious that you think this is acceptable. I am disgusted, OP, funnily enough.

Fariha31 · 23/09/2021 13:00

@anaily

People do care, just not here, here it's mainly middle class feminism against gender here, those in prison aren't (mainly) middle class. Gc can raise tens of thousands for men kicked out of a course but can't raise a penny for prison services. The feminism here is quite different, it's just a single issue group.

Im sorry? This is the only place that is sticking up for women in prison. 9well women everywhere really) Oh yeah and you can cut out the white middle class bullshit. Thanks

ArabellaScott · 23/09/2021 12:59

You know what, I started writing a post about this yesterday, but didn't fucking finish it due to a collision of work and childcare and not being very well. I am so angry that you come on here to berate women about what they are doing or failing to do. How dare you!

Whatwouldscullydo · 23/09/2021 12:58

Women in prison have been discussed extensively on these boards over the years. Particularly the often non violent reasons they are in prison and lack of supports and dignity afforded them as many have disclosed a history of abuse

This

Its utterly tragic. Women in prison really are the most oppressed without the ability to speak out and without access to basic care.

RocketPanda · 23/09/2021 12:55

Women in prison have been discussed extensively on these boards over the years. Particularly the often non violent reasons they are in prison and lack of supports and dignity afforded them as many have disclosed a history of abuse.

titchy · 23/09/2021 12:50

@anaily

People do care, just not here, here it's mainly middle class feminism against gender here, those in prison aren't (mainly) middle class. Gc can raise tens of thousands for men kicked out of a course but can't raise a penny for prison services. The feminism here is quite different, it's just a single issue group.

There is another topic on the Feminism Board in case you weren't aware. HTH

Franca123 · 23/09/2021 12:44

Disgusted of Manchester as seen in the Times comments?

teawamutu · 23/09/2021 12:42

One of the resident TRAs is first to post on a post denigrating MNers by another resident TRA.

What are the odds?

It's nearly as predictable as missing the threads where the issue has been discussed. About equally tiresome, too.

Ghostsintheshelf · 23/09/2021 12:37

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/feminism/4356486-shocking-case-of-young-woman-who-gave-birth-in-prison-bbc-radio-4-today

Already a thread on this on the other feminism board.

DefineHappy · 23/09/2021 12:31

The rights and safety of women in prisons is very often a topic of concern on this forum. Of genuine concern and distress, not faux worry or as (supposed) “gotchas”….

sanluca · 23/09/2021 12:28

So this is you and anaily berating women on here for not discussing the right topics in your opinion, OP? And getting a nice sneer in that we are all middle class so don't get a voice.
Don't you ever get tired of yourself?

OldCrone · 23/09/2021 12:18

I remember reading about that at the time. This is one thread from 2019 (there may be others).

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3709234-Baby-dies-in-prison-after-pregnant-mother-gives-birth-alone

What is David Lammy's involvement in this? The BBC article is about a report by the Ombudsman.

anaily · 23/09/2021 12:16

People do care, just not here, here it's mainly middle class feminism against gender here, those in prison aren't (mainly) middle class. Gc can raise tens of thousands for men kicked out of a course but can't raise a penny for prison services. The feminism here is quite different, it's just a single issue group.