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ACLU rewrites Ruth Bader Ginsberg to remove the word “woman”

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foxgoosefinch · 23/09/2021 00:01

Unbelievable:
twitter.com/aclu/status/1439259891064004610?s=21

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littlbrowndog · 23/09/2021 22:07

Imagine where a women’s words are censored. Imagine a women’s words are censored by the American civil liberties union

And a dead women’s words

Where she can’t speak back

Findwen · 23/09/2021 21:49

Whitney Houston
"I'm every [person], it's all in me.. "

Bit of the Bee Gees ?
"More than a [person]
More than a [person] to me
More than a [person]
More than a [person] to me"

Can't forget Cyndi Lauper
"[persons] just wanna have fun yeah, oh [persons] just wanna have fun"

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/09/2021 20:58

Dammit that was close!

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/09/2021 20:57

Has anyone done Shania yet?

🎶 Person I feel like a person. 🎵

Or Cat Stevens. Who is by all accounts looking for a hard-headed person.

ScreamingMeMe · 23/09/2021 20:56

[Person]! I feel like a [person]

EsmaCannonball · 23/09/2021 20:51

🎵'Cause I'm a [person]
[P-E-R-S-O-N]
I'll say it again 🎵

TheWeeDonkey · 23/09/2021 20:04

🎵[persons] who want [persons]
Who like [persons] to be [persons]
Who do [persons] like they're [persons]
Who do [persons] like they're [persons]
Always should be someone you really love🎵

LikeACatInTheDark · 23/09/2021 20:00

🎶Sometimes it's hard to be a (person)
Giving all your love to just one (person,)..

Stand by your (person)....🎶

Cailleach1 · 23/09/2021 19:58

@CharlieParley No, he was fine. The word woman is only verboten when talking about issues connected to female biology.

So, the only acceptable use of the word 'woman' is when you are not referring to a woman.

lionheart · 23/09/2021 19:56

Appalling.

Manderleyagain · 23/09/2021 19:06

I wonder if there is anyone left involved with ACLU who will be horrified by this? Or are they all fully signed up to the whole set of beliefs? It could open the eyes of a few who hadn't been able to see where it is going.

I'm horrified by this. Absolutely horrified.

foxgoosefinch · 23/09/2021 18:49

I think maybe we should all start saying "transperson" -- after all, it goes with "transfolx" and so on. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, etc.

I suspect that isn't exactly what is desired, though -- since then the "validation" of "man" or "woman" is lost, and the "transperson" rendered ungendered, as it were.

I think if we all started withholding the gender validation by saying the gender neutral "transperson" instead, a large part of the attraction of replacing "women" with "people" and "person" would swiftly disappear. After all, the last thing anyone trans wants is not to be gendered at all, surely?

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TheWeeDonkey · 23/09/2021 18:47

Sorry, the take was "won't someone think of the poor paedophiles, they can't help it Sad"

TheWeeDonkey · 23/09/2021 18:46

@bigkidsdidit

The B&R paedophile episodes were terrible. Really poor analysis. And I’m a subscriber - I like them.

Anyway, derail.

Agreed,

Sorry BigKids you're right. I was just thinking two separate shows couldn't each have such bad takes. I shouldn't be surprised by anything anymore.

bigkidsdidit · 23/09/2021 18:40

Sorry - I didn’t mean that ‘detail’ to sound rude! I was talking about my own post

bigkidsdidit · 23/09/2021 18:39

The B&R paedophile episodes were terrible. Really poor analysis. And I’m a subscriber - I like them.

Anyway, derail.

knittingaddict · 23/09/2021 18:33

[quote TheWeeDonkey]@KnittingAddict was that Blocked and Reported? I enjoyed listening to them too, a bit 😕 on some of their views but always interesting until I listened to them discussing paedophiles last week and the week before and I can't listen to them after that. [/quote]
No, it was Worst Year Ever. Started as a bit of aa anti Trump podcast during the election year and is still continuing as a left leaning podcast. I've really enjoyed some of their stuff and they seem like decent people, but maybe too ready to take on "woke" ideology, without question.

I don't like the woke term, but don't know how else to describe it.

What was *Blocked and Reported's take on paedophiles?

littlbrowndog · 23/09/2021 18:29

What do the taliban and ACLU have in common ?

ACLU rewrites Ruth Bader Ginsberg to remove the word “woman”
CharlieParley · 23/09/2021 18:28

@Cailleach1

So Ed Davey was utterly transphobic when he said that Trans Women are Women. He should have said Trans People are People. He didn't mean to try to bring everything around to Boris Johnson, he meant to bring it around to people. Lisa Nandy needs to be corrected too. These outdated people need to be re-educated.
No, he was fine. The word woman is only verboten when talking about issues connected to female biology.
ErrolTheDragon · 23/09/2021 18:20

Oh - sorry, no I didn't realise what you meant, as The Times is also owned by Murdoch (though editorially independent) I thought that's what you meant. I forgot the NYT gets called 'the Times' by Americans.

I get some emailed selections from the NYT and I seem to remember reading a piece very critical of the shoddy way the Texas bill was pushed through... which remarkably managed to avoid using the word 'women' once except in a quote. Hmm so yes, sounds par for the course they'd ignore this.

Jaysmith71 · 23/09/2021 18:04

I think you know what I mean. In the USA, The Times is universally understood to be the NY Times.

They do get The Times (of London) wrong and mistakenly call it The London Times, because they have city newspapers rather than a national press.

ErrolTheDragon · 23/09/2021 17:58

@Jaysmith71

It has made Murdoch's NY Post

nypost.com/2021/09/23/aclu-botches-twitter-tribute-to-rbg/

But the Times with so much more acreage of newsprint to fill, remains uninterested.

The Times is primarily a U.K. publication with limited space for all world news. It's got this today though.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-had-an-abortion-as-a-teenager-says-uma-thurman-as-she-attacks-texas-heartbeat-act-zzmgpvprk?shareToken=19064be4b161a80fd41a19e8d3652364

Jaysmith71 · 23/09/2021 17:51

It has made Murdoch's NY Post

nypost.com/2021/09/23/aclu-botches-twitter-tribute-to-rbg/

But the Times with so much more acreage of newsprint to fill, remains uninterested.

Cailleach1 · 23/09/2021 17:04

Sorry, it is Trans persons are persons. All persons are persons.

Cailleach1 · 23/09/2021 17:03

So Ed Davey was utterly transphobic when he said that Trans Women are Women. He should have said Trans People are People. He didn't mean to try to bring everything around to Boris Johnson, he meant to bring it around to people. Lisa Nandy needs to be corrected too. These outdated people need to be re-educated.

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