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India Willoughby being vile about Julia HB

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BewaretheIckabog · 20/09/2021 21:54

India Willoughby used to be a trans person I tried to listen to although I thought she was always obsessed by how feminine she looked and how well she passed. She seemed to think she was not just better at being a woman than other trans people but also most women to.

Now attacking JHB on Twitter as looking more manly than her. It’s hardly the BeKind, be a good, little lady, be nice to everyone is it?

I can appreciate there would be some envy on a career / journalistic level but IW comes across as a thoroughly unpleasant person.

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RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 21/09/2021 19:08

@terryleather

"Look look look, I am so much more of a woman than that actual woman!"

Maybe not such a smart idea to get folks to look too closely, eh India...

No….not the best idea
PandorasMailbox · 21/09/2021 19:08

@MiladyBerserko

If there is going to be a battle of wits, my money's firmly on Julia.

Plus, popcorn.

It won't be much of a battle as IW doesn't seem to have a lot of ammo and can't shoot straight.
Dougalskeeper · 21/09/2021 19:07

India doesn't sound like a nice person.

OhHolyJesus · 21/09/2021 18:51

Here is IW comparing radical feminists to incels.

twitter.com/forwomenscot/status/1428036912820936712?s=21

Onyernelly · 21/09/2021 18:23

I saw IW once in topshop - she was extremely volatile and confrontational.
She strutted up and down the dressing room staring down the various women and swanning about in everyone’s space.
I got the impression we were supposed to be in awe of her fabulousness.
It appeared she was salivating at the possibility of getting in someone’s face

Terrible person.

NewMutiny · 21/09/2021 18:11

Actually it's just the SM equivalent of a drunk man shouting, 'I wouldn't fuck you anyway you ugly cow!' at you in the street after you've told them where to stick their clumsy proposition/sexual harassment isn't it? Nothing more complex than that.

Socialisation eh? It's a bugger to shake off.

NewMutiny · 21/09/2021 18:08

I don't even get Willoughby's point. Julia looks completely female in that photo and every other photo I have ever seen of her. How is that photo a 'gotcha'? Confused

OneEpisode · 21/09/2021 18:01

Can I give this another bump? That video Ghosts posted at 10:18. Watch to the end.
I do feel sorry for lots of individual men. Bad things happen to individual men.
But India is reading a women’s rape crisis centre’s website and as a result feels sorry for the men?
There is a religious view that women only exist as support for men. India is doing that really well.

OhWhyNot · 21/09/2021 13:40

One thing I notice with so many trans women is what they don’t leave behind once they become women is their male entitlement that they should be thought of first

The reason they have a platform and a powerful voice is because they are male. No trans man has such a platform

They don’t recognise that this has been bestowed on them because they were born with a penis

I don’t doubt they have been victims because they are trans but it’s not the same as what females will go through but so many don’t want to hear our experiences just for us to accept theirs (something females have had to do throughout time and conditioned to)

IW shows this perfectly when discussing women’s refuges

LizzieSiddal · 21/09/2021 13:16

When I think of IW I see them shouting right in the face of 81 year old Amanda Barrie on Big Brother, because Amanda mistakingly “misgendered” them.

I also remember India lost their job with Channel 5 news after BB. So we aren’t the only ones who feel IW is not a very nice person.

Suzysunflower · 21/09/2021 12:45

I had my first post deleted ever!
Shock
Hmm
Confused

terryleather · 21/09/2021 10:37

"Look look look, I am so much more of a woman than that actual woman!"

Maybe not such a smart idea to get folks to look too closely, eh India...

Ghostsintheshelf · 21/09/2021 10:18

m.youtube.com/watch?v=lKBEpngVLz8&t=200s

4.30 in this clip is what I always think of when I see India Willoughby mentioned. Imagine thinking "poor men" should be the focus in this discussion.

OhWhyNot · 21/09/2021 10:17

I love Julia not accepting cis she is absolutely correct.

There is no need to add to woman we all know what the word means we are female unless you are a male who presents as a women because you are not a woman you are a trans women

hamstersarse · 21/09/2021 10:10

I think JHB is an excellent broadcaster. Consistently.

ScreamingMeMe · 21/09/2021 09:59

Julia's not rattled. And India is getting wrecked in the replies. What a stupid thing to do. And that photo that India has posted of themselves is quite obviously filtered to all heck.

twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1440046309168189441?s=20

India Willoughby being vile about Julia HB
Corrag · 21/09/2021 09:59

@Theluggage15

Of course I’m now blocked by Willoughby for objecting to the comments. Loves a little echo chamber the sensitive soul.
Appears I'd already been blocked by IW, not sure what I've done to deserve that, I've never commented on any of her tweets.
Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 21/09/2021 09:52

I really don't like IW. IW is a misogynist and comes across as very unpleasant.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 21/09/2021 09:44

Ugh. What utterly vile and misogynistic comments by India.

SpindleWhorl · 21/09/2021 09:39

'Cis' and 'trans' are Latin words, that don't mean what IW thinks they mean in the Roman world, chemistry or medical practice. And as for modern parlance, the terms have lost all meaning as far as I'm concerned. One's frequently used dismissively and, understandably, offence taken; and one's so nebulous that even the self-identifiers can't agree on what it 'means'.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/09/2021 09:38

@MiladyBerserko

If there is going to be a battle of wits, my money's firmly on Julia.

Plus, popcorn.

Time for the hoary old insult 'I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but I see you are unarmed.' Grin
EarthSight · 21/09/2021 09:34

Sorry - should specify that I watched this -

twitter.com/talkradio/status/1068434726908776448?s=21

EarthSight · 21/09/2021 09:32

I've seen the clip and I'm laughing. What was he on about saying that 'cis' is the opposite of transwoman? Blame the Romans he said??

I thought that cis was some kind of dodgy term borrowed from the chemistry world.

NancyDrawed · 21/09/2021 09:28

It is IW's reaction to people saying 'no' or disagreeing or misgendering that really show everyone what sex IW is.

They seem to think that they pass extremely well and on photos, they probably can. IRL though, the mannerisms and attitude shout male entitlement

NotAGirl · 21/09/2021 09:11

[quote BoreOfWhabylon]India on Big Brother
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ini3dqd8MMI
m.youtube.com/watch?v=PsJxpvGzo3E[/quote]
I’ve encountered the finger jabbing at me from someone looming over me whilst they are insisting a point several times. It is intended to (and is) intimidating but I’ve never seen a woman do itHmm