Rosie Duffield front page of Sunday Times

We should say it loudly.

Stop being a spineless career obsessive Jess.

I think Keir is one of those ppl who can do confrontation providing there are rules around it & everyone knows what they are & abides by them

He can’t do confrontation with people who refuse to discuss things but just call everyone who disagrees a transphobe & then lodge complaint after complaint against people for being transphobic. It’s exhausting & time consuming (i mean his knows we know that!!!) and I think he just keeps Hoping if he keeps his head down, it’ll go away

It won’t

A lot of TRA footsoldiers ARE straight white men. Or gay white men. Usually with beards.

'What the hell has happened to Keir Starmer? The guy was a public prosecutor - he literally used to confront people for a living.'

Very well said. He's such a bloody disappointment

I think that Mishy often misses evidence that proves them wrong. Just like saying one of the founders of Stonewall did not understand the history of gay rights.

Oh, Mishy: 1000s of screenshots of violent threats on twitter, Maria Machalan being attacked, Julie Bindle being neay attacked, TRAs kicking the windows of a women's meeting, porn being posted to JK Rowling and most recently a TRA charging at a woman screaming "Witch! Witch! Witch!" rather prove you wrong.

Usual Time beat up on trans activists being a threat, when its just rubbish. Even Duffield says it in the article:

"Duffield, who chairs the Women’s Parliamentary Labour Party, took the decision not to attend conference after being advised it was “not a good idea”. She said: “I mainly took the decision not because I really thought I was going to be attacked, but because I did not want to be the centre of attention."

Shame she is not attending, as she would quite rightly be challenged on her exclusionary views. Pity.

I’m unsurprised that the BBC have somehow managed to forget to feature The Times front page today.

Also unsurprised, and yet continually disappointed by her Labour party colleagues.

One comment that stood out to me was Lisa Nandy, the shadow foreign secretary, said of Duffield: “She has been the victim of the most serious crime imaginable and must be treated with care and respect.”. Rosie’s treatment by her colleagues and generally what she’s been through is truly awful but “the most serious crime imaginable”? I swear Lisa Nancy just spews out whatever she thinks people want to hear at the time.

What the hell has happened to Keir Starmer? The guy was a public prosecutor - he literally used to confront people for a living.

I wonder if he has read Shon Faye’s book or Judith Butler’s interview and asked himself if he really wants to support the wider political implications of Queer theory, because that is what underpins the politics currently pushed by the LGBT sections of SNP/Greens/Libdems/Labour.

Does he really think he can square that circle?

Dh had to catch me up…doh!

I don’t think this will ever end until somebody like Starmer is brave enough to say that trans women are not women. Any rights or protections they need stem from the fact that their sex is male.

You can’t base any one’s rights on a fantasy.

Does the bbc not usually feature the Times front page? Or just today?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-58612636

Speculation on the segment about whether Starmer would say something during conference.

They've just covered it briefly on the Andrew Marr show, the female journalist from the Mirror saying it doesn't matter what people's views on the trans issue, women must be able to feel safe, and Marr adding at the end 'and express free speech'.

What the hell has happened to Keir Starmer? The guy was a public prosecutor - he literally used to confront people for a living.

And Jess Phillips needs to take that banner down from her Twitter bio:
'No victim left behind' it says.
You couldn't make it up.

Thanks for the share token.

Keir - the Pope has been assassinated! ' Right. I'll just send a text....'

Rosie really has been let down by her party. The Labour party are idiots. She took a conservative seat and this is how they repay her by allowing threats to keep her away from conference. They should be asking her how she managed to win her seat so other party members can have a chance if winning.
Glad to have her speaking out and really hope she doesn't get too worn down, we need women like her.

A Labour Councillor has said what Labour MPs couldn't bring themselves to. She's probably next in line at the witch burning for this.

"I am so upset - and angry - that Rosie is unable to attend conference due to fears for her own safety. We should all be able to disagree and to debate difficult and controversial issues without resorting to threats & violence"

twitter.com/katherinedunne/status/1439288991698800644?s=20

Thanks for the share token OP.

It’s good to finally see coverage of this and front page too and Rosie Duffield getting support finally from someone in the HoC.

One thing in the article I am but puzzled by is this,

Sir Keir Starmer, is taking the Duffield case more seriously. He has recently texted her to check on her welfare, but others within the party have been less supportive.

He is taking it seriously and has texted her, not met or phoned to offer his support or any protection.
I’m reading this as sarcasm, how ‘supportive’ is a text ffs.

Wow, Waternoice. It is missing. That's really poor form

The comments are very encouraging and I feel that one silver lining of this whole debate is that it has united men and women in so many ways. Hell! Even Douglas Murray is showing feminist tendencies!

I thought this comment was particularly good:

Also, just as an observation, when women express concerns that they may feel unsafe if male bodied people use their private spaces, issuing rape threats on social media is unlikely to reassure.

I mean what are those TRAs thinking when they send abuse?! That we’re going to think “oh please come into our spaces! You pose no threat whatsoever!”

What I find very odd is that The Sunday Times is not included on this morning’s edition of the online BBC newspaper headlines. It’s always there, Unless I’m very mistaken.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-58612636