Rosie Duffield front page of Sunday Times

[quote ScreamingMeMe]Here is Glinner's post on the matter. These men are foul.

Think Glinner is right when he says:

"There’s not many of these lunatics left, you know. It’s just Owen Jones, Michael Cashman and a few others who made such fools of themselves in this debate that there’s really nothing they can do except front it out until the bitter end. "

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I agree.

Most people realise this is insane. Now that it's going mainstream, and ordinary people see that a perfectly sensible person like Rosie Duffield, expressing unexceptional views such as "only women have a cervix" and "women should have the right to single-sex spaces" is being accused of "terrorising trans people" and threatened with murder, they know which side they're on. The whole house of cards will come tumbling down.

I hope so, at any rate. I've been over-optimistic before.

I must be missing something. I have seen quite a few reports of women killed by men over the last few months, but nothing about trans people being murdered as a result of women describing biological reality.

I know the MSM might be suppressing these stories, but you’d have thought OJ et al would be able to provide some examples.

Is that our Mishy?

This guy as well.

Protection! From terrorising views!

"Trans siblings need protection from Duffield and her views on this website - which actually terrorise trans people.

Many trans members have left
@UKLabour
and continue to do so because of her as well as her own staff leaving their jobs because of her."

twitter.com/mish_rahman/status/1439517028814045187?s=20

Here is Glinner's post on the matter. These men are foul.

Think Glinner is right when he says:

"There’s not many of these lunatics left, you know. It’s just Owen Jones, Michael Cashman and a few others who made such fools of themselves in this debate that there’s really nothing they can do except front it out until the bitter end. "

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-hill-he-chose-to-die-on

Just caught up with LOJ's tweet on Glinner's newsletter. Absurdly offensive, even by his standards. He's absolutely appalling and seems to be getting worse.

Carolyn Quinn is pushing this on the Westminster Hour on Radio 4 just now and Emma Lewell-Buck (Labour MP) was "TWAW, I had a friend, everyone needs to be kind". It sounded so clueless and I think the tide is turning.

I can't see the article. That Labour conference footage is alarming.

This is exactly the same. OJ just doesn't see women as a valid class in their own right. He refuses to acknowledge that women are humans with their own specific needs, and that sometimes that doesn't include males. He doesn't believe women when they speak out about abuse they have suffered (he did the same with JKR, accusing her of making herself a 'martyr') if those women don't toe the line that he wants them to toe. Either do exactly as he says, believe exactly what he believes, or you are not worthy.

It's misogyny, pure and simple. And it seems to be repeated over and over again on the left at the moment. It's so depressing.

Why OJ is posting stuff about his own experiences of being attacked as a way to discredit and invalidate RD I do not know.

Because he is a misogynist who can’t accept that there is a specific category of violence that men commit against women. It’s no different to ‘all lives matter’.

Rosie has seen all this fucking gaslighting abusive shit before in a personal relationship. She won't back down.

Why OJ is posting stuff about his own experiences of being attacked as a way to discredit and invalidate RD I do not know.

He is also now reaching for Prick News for shit to fling at her. Desperate or what.

On Twitter people slagging her off keep being asked what it is she has said that is so transphobic. It's mostly crickets, with the odd mention of her saying that 'only women have a cervix' as 'proof of her transphobia' coming up every now and then.

Interestingly Liz Truss was able to say 'women do have vaginas Nick' and not get too much shit for it. The left is absolutely riddled with misogyny.

Also, the ‘Murdoch Press’ are reporting what Lindsay Hoyle said. Has he mentioned the speaker?

Sorry, OJ is confusing!!

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did...

You deserved it.

Who can blame Rosie Duffield for giving Labour Conference a miss when this is what was being said at the last (pre-Covid) Labour conference in 2019:

(The fringe meeting of course being the Womens Place meeting where protestors banged on the windows for several hours).

Ah so, the abuse isn't the problem. RD talking about the abuse is the problem!

Thanks, got it. Remind me again how this isn't an MRA movement?

Yes according to people like OJ she is in the wrong for mentioning it.
‘‘Twas ever thus when women speak out.

In terms of OJ I'd go with the latter.

I'd also note the reference to LGBT.

Rosie has never said anything remotely homophobic.

He concern about women's rights being eroded by TRA's and self id is deliberately being re-framed by OJ here.

He also fails to grasp the irony of his classic DARVO response as whipping up further antagonism towards Rosie.

Right side of history? I don't think so.

Is pointing out what has actually happened "demonising"?
Is the idea that she just shuts up and puts up with it?

So are abuse and threats 'real' 'hate crimes' or not? Or are they only hate crimes for some people and not others?

LOJ isn't happy...

I could say more about what I think about this tweet but I'd break talk guidelines.

Suzanne Moore has written about this today, her righteous anger is leaping off the page. Letters from Suzanne Moore 'Endanger Duffield. Endanger us all.' Fabulous writing.