Ed Davy on R4 Today - there should not be safe places for women

Transwomen are oppressed …….by men.

It’s a joke a complete disgrace. My partner tells me I keep going on and on about this - he doesn’t get it because he is male. We can’t discuss it anymore otherwise we will split up.

The deep rooted misogyny is so clear, why can't he see it?

Absolutely.

You can only think that transwomen are the most oppressed if you deliberately overlook culturally entrenched misogyny and actual murders of women, the daily sexism all women and girls put up with, and the international phenomenon of femicide.

Lib Dems are dead to me. Misogynist 'progressives' make my blood boil.

Ed Davy is now on the record saying this - I think that is what JW was after as he didn’t push it further (or it may have been time constraints). When the next incident occurs in prisons, changing rooms, wards etc - and unfortunately there will be a next time - this will be brought up and hopefully Ed will be challenged on it and he won’t be able to answer it. We will hold these people to account but in the meantime women and girls will be harmed. This on the day that VAWG is supposed to be taken seriously. Safe spaces protect women and girls from men.

ED "yeh, because I think some of the arguments that are put against this just don't understand the facts and experience. You know, transpeople are some of the most discriminated against in our society. They suffer violence. They suffer harassment."

This boils my piss. The deep rooted misogyny is so clear, why can't he see it? His position here is very clear. That the violence and harassment women face is ALWAYS secondary to that of any other group, ALWAYS secondary to any other agenda, and the violence and harassment women face is always acceptable collateral damage for another cause.

Ed Davey can

I have supported Libdems for decades. But this from their leader is too much. Nice of him to be clear though, with his luxury beliefs that will never affect him.

Lib Dem were also the only ones, who came knocking. Not last election, the one before. I told the man canvasing for votes to leave the property immediately! So sad. Both dh and I would like to be Lib Dem voters.

We've got Tories forever.

And it is reaching the stage that we stop thinking about how to get them out and start considering what we can do to keep them in but make them a bit less Tory.

We've got Tories forever. People will not vote for this BS. I know the tories are awful but at least some of them are holding onto material reality. Breaks my heart the Lib Dems and Labour have lost their collective minds.

With this and the revelations about what Mridul Wadwa said in that meeting, TRAs (MRAs) are becoming more and more blatant.

mobile.twitter.com/EdwardJDavey

If he bothers to read his Twitter page he'll find out what people think of ignoring women's rights to safe spaces. A real vote winner, not!

Ed Davy can piss right off with his dangerous male privilege saying that.
And Christ, if he’s the brightest and best that the Lib Dems have got to gather around, they really are fucked aren’t they?

I really want a decent non-sexist opposition party to emerge post-Covid and there just doesn’t seem to be anything professional or inspiring actually happening at the moment in LDs or Labour.
Lifelong Labour voter here and I won’t ever vote Tory. It’s really depressing.

I’m not a regular poster on these boards (frequent reader with interest and admiration however! ) But I’ve been a Lib Dem member since 2015 and was recently approached to stand as a local councillor.

On the back of Ed Davey’s comments this morning I’ve just cancelled my party membership. I’m aligned with the Lib Dems on many other issues, but I won’t lend my support, even tacitly, to any party that persists in throwing women’s sex-based rights under the bus. And I’m sure I’m far from alone among the voting population

I've said on many threads before - I was an active member, I've volunteered on a local and national level but I've left now because the dodgy way they've treated women over the years has now come to this.

The exchange in the form of a transcript is present upthread both as free text and as a twitter screenshot (which I posted) GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal.

Alternatively, here it is as a short audio clip on twitter:

twitter.com/Rootsy62654547/status/1438793246449315851

Is there a transcript of exactly what he said? My MP is Lib Dem and I'd like to ask her for her response to this.

Yes they think we will forget and still vote for them.

I think they have no idea how angry women are about this.

in answering the question about biological males Ed replies with ‘trans’. He implicitly accepts TW are male.
What’s shocked me is Ed then says there should be no places TW can’t go.

Think, in Ed’s world , he could congratulate Emma himself, in person , in the showers of the female changing rooms , just so long as he IDs as a TW.

And as for a public debate, he means a debate where you agree with me.

The man is a disgrace. I’d be embarrassed to be a LD member today.

Lifetime LD voter here. On our corruption tory-led council our local LD councillors have always been brilliant - one went for MP last GE and I so, so wanted to vote for him but I couldn't, because of shite like this. Last local election I couldn't vote for the LD either and they were the only people who door knocked and I had to tell them why and they did not get it.

At least he's answered the Staniland question -that male sexed people must be allowed to undress and shower in a changing room with undressing teenage girls if they want to.

Always good to let the electorate know where a politician stands on matters relating to safeguarding of children.

No it’s worse. The question - asked and answered twice was about biological men and Ed think that there should be no places where biological men can't go full stop

So basically Ed thinks women and girls shouldn’t ever be allowed single sex spaces.

The consequences are far wider. Denial of single sex spaces for girls and women also means the denial of single sex services and any sex-based Safeguarding.