Ed Davy on R4 Today - there should not be safe places for women

Get a group together, follow him into the gents and come up with a really distracting topic to discuss among yourselves (so that he can hear). Something to really put him off. If challenged, say that you all identify as men and call him a transphobic bigot.

And make nasty comments about his appearance, penis, tell to smile & cheer up, grab his arse, call him frigid for not showing you his cock.

Also three cheers for Sir Lindsay H, although disgusting that KS hasn’t intervened to protect Rosie Duffield. It’s not so much Labour losing women now as Labour have lost them. It’s going to take a fierce reckoning tackling Labour’s alarming misogyny to ever get us back. KS just doesn’t have the stomach for it….so they’re no longer an effective Opposition because they’ll never see power. Absolute shambles.

Haven’t rtft I’m afraid so apologies if I’m repeating pps….
I’m delighted that the odious Mr Davey was forced to show his true colours, and prime time on Today no less. Ha! Sunshine galore which we so desperately need.

I particularly like that he was pressed about biological men accessing female spaces. This is the killer point that I don’t think many of the public understand…they often think TRAs are fighting for access post op, whereas we know differently - deliberate sleight of hand no doubt. The more people who understand this point the better….I’ve shocked a few friends by explaining about lady penises, wi Spa etc and they reconsidered their stance as a result.

Also the comments in the Times this weekend, and on BBC politics today are excellent, the tide is definitely turning in the U.K. at least (wee Jimmy Krankee notwithstanding). Brilliant…the strategy of stealth and no debate has failed, and now that it’s getting into the mainstream media concern is growing fast because people are starting to understand this grubby little game. Hooray for the women who won’t wheesht!

Get a group together, follow him into the gents and come up with a really distracting topic to discuss among yourselves (so that he can hear). Something to really put him off. If challenged, say that you all identify as men and call him a transphobic bigot.

Vulval dermatitis on the end of my massive prolapse would be a good one. Sometimes stuff comes out of it.

This comment on Facebook did amuse me.

Just heard that when giving a sentence judges will be given the option of either a handing down a prison term or sentencing someone to be leader of the Lib Dems

Perhaps point out to him that no one ever asks what is the definition of 'man' and what does that say about who's identity and rights are seen as negotiable, who gets to do the decision making, and whose identities and rights are seen as so fixed that they're not up for debate?

At this point the sexism is so massive we're all having problems peering around it.

I don't see how he can justifiably argue otherwise.

What other measures of dominance and superiority does he feel British males should have over females, who he clearly views as a subordinate class?

Wha'ts that, Artichoke?

"his statement that the Lib Dems don't believe female humans should ever be allowed to be without male supervision?"

Like the Taliban?

Yes, Lib dems have been taking money from trans pressure interests for quite a while.
Seems to me the ONLY reason that someone purportedly same could say such ridiculous things is if he is being paid to do so. So now I will think of him as Ed 'thirty pieces of silver' Davy. Shame on him.

what value 30 pieces of silver has

The painful truth of it.

Will he now have the guts to stand behind his statement that the Lib Dems don't believe female humans should ever be allowed to be without male supervision?

Thanks, Old Crone

Also, quelle surprise.

Thread about the interview. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4352994-Andrew-Marr-Lib-Dem-leader-what-is-wrong-with-the-phrase-woman-adult-human-female?msgid=110926264

Am still watching. The one in 4 trans teen suicide attempt.

Earlier on this in the programme AM interviewed Alison Phillips from the Mirror, who was discussing an article from the Sunday Times. Rosie Duffield is not going to the labour conference due to death threats. She said ‘safeguarding piece’ challenged Kier Starmer to address the lack of free speech.

How are these men allowed to go on tv and spout all these statistics that are completely untrue? Just listened to Sadiq Khan on Andrew Marr, completely unchallenged. Ed Davey repeating soundbites that have no basis in reality. I hope Andrew Marr goes away and does some fact checking.

He’s on Andrew Marr right now. Big big big grilling. “What is wrong with Adult Human Female”. Zero answers. Waffle waffle. Blame BJ. Not that I like BJ. But he’s fuming with BJ.

Ferring donations to Lib Dems

Thing is he's gone one step further. A big step.

Not just males who identify as women but any males.

Has he followed up on this comment at all?

He was honest and open about there being no space into which a biological man may not go.
So. Breast screening centres are wrong, according to our Ed. They currently are female only, women centred spaces.
Changing your Nanna's pad, nope you can t expect the carer to be female, a woman looking after a woman, no.
You can't ask for a female chaperone during an intimate exam or process.

Paraphrasing those famous words - Ed, no, thank you.

The Times said £100k. The article was published December 2019.

Do we know how much Ferring have given the Lib Dems? Last I read it was just shy of 1.5 million.

I'd like to know so I can see what value 30 pieces of silver has.

I mean not even Helen bloody Belcher believes men can become women, let alone anyone else.

The LDs were dead to me after the tuition fees switcheroo, but it does feel a bit macabre watching them dig their own grave and oil up the pistol

Well it is the Indy. They jumped the shark a while back.

Did anyone notice the headline in the Indeoendent reporting this?

Yes, I said it was Pink News-esque levels of dishonest reporting to suggest that anyone had questioned whether trans people should be allowed to use any public places.

This was specifically about whether female people should have spaces which were free of males.

Did anyone notice the headline in the Indeoendent reporting this?
“Trans women should be allowed in all public places, Lib Dem leader Ed Davey says”
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trans-women-lib-dem-ed-davey-b1921898.html%3famp

Some spaces are private, some are public. Most public spaces are mixed sex. But transwomen can access all male only spaces (peerages, male only golf clubs, the masons are known to accept transwomen), and all female only ones.
Without any definition of trans that is observable or measurable, so Ed per the Indie means “all men” really.