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Ed Davy on R4 Today - there should not be safe places for women

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42SrauvP · 17/09/2021 08:03

Quite jarring to hear him say it out loud but yes, this white man has stated love on the radio that there should be no spaces where biological males can’t go.
Just before 8am.

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NashvilleQueen · 17/09/2021 08:38

The only positive is that I do feel Justin Webb is an ally on this topic.

donquixotedelamancha · 17/09/2021 08:38

I’m thinking about my you young daughter and how a senior politician believes she should never be able to go anywhere that a biological male can’t follow.

Who is the senior politician, the thread only mentions Ed Davy?

Amazing that the BBC actually didn't censor this out.

The today program has been vociforous in pursuing this issue. It's not that 'the BBC' censor anything, it's that some sections see it as an important story and some want to push the 'be knid, nothing to see' line.

If you comapre the output of Justin Webb to Ben Hunte it's like one works for the old BBC and one works for Pink News.

Jaysmith71 · 17/09/2021 08:37

....To be fair, after Swinson (cough) it was either him or Moran, condescending arrongant female etc...

MTCoffeePot · 17/09/2021 08:36

Davey mentioned something about a need for national discussion ... but couldn’t bring himself to say the word ‘women’. Agree that the item on violence against women at around 8.15 is really disturbing contrast.

1Endeavour2 · 17/09/2021 08:35

Having just listened to the LBC interview with Davey, it's clear that he believes that his views are simply superior to those of women. He even had to listen 'with patience'. Condescending, arrogant male pr**K....!!!!!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 17/09/2021 08:34

Worryingly Morris he is!

Jaysmith71 · 17/09/2021 08:34

....He IS the leader.

MorrisZapp · 17/09/2021 08:33

Is he the leader?

Jaysmith71 · 17/09/2021 08:33

If it's not Tim Farron saying gays are going to burn in hell, it's this.

You'd think there was a (safe) space somewhere between for the LDs, but seems not.

Hold your breath and dream of Daisy Cooper.

MorrisZapp · 17/09/2021 08:32

Or do I mean immutable. Which is which? 😂

endofthelinefinally · 17/09/2021 08:31

He did a MN Q and A a couple of years ago and made his views very clear. He cares nothing for women's sex based rights, so today's interview just confirms that.

MorrisZapp · 17/09/2021 08:31

Ed Davy can speak shite until forever, the Lib Dems said goodbye to all hope and credibility with the loss of Charles Kennedy.

I'd love it if we could stop accusing idiots of being white, as if it's one more reason they're an arsehole. It's a mutable skin colour, not a character trait.

1Endeavour2 · 17/09/2021 08:29

Amazing that the BBC actually didn't censor this out. They have sink so low I elect nothing from them. What does Davey think there is to negotiate anyway? Men are either in or out of girls private spaces. There's no halfway option.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 17/09/2021 08:28

[quote R0wantrees]July 16th 2020
Ed Davey on LBC was unequivocal having listened to women's concerns about female single sex spaces being mixed sex and who feel threatened,

"I don't agree with them"

He also thinks women just "don't understand the facts and experience [of transwomen]"

twitter.com/LBC/status/1283844809405464576[/quote]
Hes a blithering idiot

I voted for them a few times, then they said they didnt want people like me to vote for them so that made life easier at the polling booth

R0wantrees · 17/09/2021 08:28

@Theeyeballsinthesky

Ah the Belcher effect in the Lib Dem’s. It just keeps on giving for them doesn’t it?
Belcher supported Davey's bid for leadership and he in turn expressed hopes that his friend, Belcher, will be an MP in 2024.

twitter.com/EdwardJDavey/status/1289592475556941830

Ed Davy on R4 Today - there should not be safe places for women
EdmontinaDonsAutumnalHues · 17/09/2021 08:27

Justin Webb is always really good on this subject.

Yes, he is.

1Endeavour2 · 17/09/2021 08:26

Does he think male bodied people should be allowed in teenage girls changing rooms too?

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 17/09/2021 08:26

Its horrendous

Do they not actually want to be a political force in britain?

Didnt whats her face say that (paraphrasing) ‘ if you believe in biological sex we don’t want your vote’….it was something like that

You’d think it couldn’t be much worse than that…Ed seems to have managed it though

Zeugma · 17/09/2021 08:25

@Forestdweller11

Juxtaposed with the 8.15 interview re women being/feeling safe ...
Exactly.

It was jaw-dropping that the question to Davey was specifically about women and his answer was specifically about trans. He couldn't even bring himself to utter the word 'women' (and, indeed, didn't at all, iirc).

1Endeavour2 · 17/09/2021 08:25

Glad a light has been shone on him. Listening to the debate I have minimal confidence that the police will do anything effective either Just think of them spending all that money on rainbow coloured police cars etc. How about police cars with pictures of battered women and children on them instead?

42SrauvP · 17/09/2021 08:24

Justin Webb is always really good on this subject.
My all time favourite retort of his was “you don’t know anything about me” when someone tried to refer to him as cis gender.

By the way (in response to a PP) I referred to Ed Davy as a white male because he is one, and that happens to place him in a position with huge privilege, as opposed to say, women who need safe spaces. He will never suffer the consequences of his beliefs. Shame on him. He has told us who he is though, and we should be glad of that. Too many politicians are afraid to say what they think.
Anyway I’m thinking about my you young daughter and how a senior politician believes she should never be able to go anywhere that a biological male can’t follow. Because that what it boils down to.

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Hathertonhariden · 17/09/2021 08:24

I posted about it in Chat

TabbyStar · 17/09/2021 08:23

Surely Ed Davey is being transphobic agreeing that transwomen are biological men.... I'm not entirely sure he knew what he was saying either.

R0wantrees · 17/09/2021 08:22

July 16th 2020
Ed Davey on LBC was unequivocal having listened to women's concerns about female single sex spaces being mixed sex and who feel threatened,

"I don't agree with them"

He also thinks women just "don't understand the facts and experience [of transwomen]"

twitter.com/LBC/status/1283844809405464576

CatsOperatingInGangs · 17/09/2021 08:22

I believe Davey, like I, has a disabled child. I can’t believe he does not believe his child is entitled to same sex intimate care.