Judge is sad paedophile won't be able to keep his job as a midwife

I'm going to make a complaint about the sentence. It may be that it won't be accepted as I can see that only some sex crimes against children are covered.
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Thanks for the info, I will too. I've had a total panic reaction to reading this. A midwife led birth is such an intense, vulnerable time. I needed to connect with my midwives as fellow women. I am so grateful I never had to find the courage to say no to a man during those experiences. I have a friend who credits the point at which she felt unable to say no to the new, male, midwife with the point her labour slowed down and needed much more intervention. She feels guilty for even acknowledging that to herself. Because women have been gaslit into thinking equality means stuff like men becoming midwives.

Midwifery should be a profession reserved for women.

I am suspicious of men who choose to work with women at a vulnerable time in their lives in a job which puts them in a position of power and gives them intimate access to women’s bodies. Just as I am suspicious of men who would like to work in rape crisis centres. I don’t think that genuinely caring and thoughtful men would put themselves in such a position knowing how uncomfortable it will make some women.

So many women have suffered violence and harassment at the hands of men, no woman should be in the position of being triggered and having to disclose when she is in labour and male attendant walks into the room. To need to ask for a woman is another stress I don’t believe any pregnant or labouring women should have to face, let alone the anxiety some might suffer in the lead up to birth. We should be able to take it for granted that all staff in maternity will be women.

You're on a bit of a sticky wicket if you start disbarring one sex from certain jobs though.

IntermittentParps there is barely enough midwifes on the floor as it is - a male shouldn't take a precious spot which could leave a women with out immediate care.

if a woman was in labour and there was only a male midwife available and she didn't want a male to attend in to her - why should she have to either put herself in danger or give in. Labour is ALL about the women - not the males feelings or needs.

Doctors can and do sexually assault patients:

www.medpagetoday.com/publichealthpolicy/ethics/77605

Jellycatspyjamas, I was responding to a post that talked about men working with vulnerable women and/or children, not only about male midwives.

When there are so many other areas of nursing to choose from, why choose a discipline that you have no personal experience of
Some female midwives don't have experience of giving birth either.
And why should his desire to do that job trump a woman’s right to privacy and dignity.
Again, did I say anything about thinking women should be compelled to accept a male midwife?

And NO WOMAN is obliged to acquiesce to a man laying his hands on her out of regard for his feelings.

This is very basic consent.

That goes without saying (or should). But that isn't the same as implying a man is suspicious for choosing Ob-Gyn as a career choice.

That's not very fair. Many men will choose this work for the right reasons. Can men not feel a straightforward desire to support people, some of whom are female, in difficult circumstances?
Many friends of mine have had male midwives and couldn't speak highly enough of them.

If he’s trained as a midwife surely all the people he will support will be women, at an incredibly vulnerable point in their lives. When there are so many other areas of nursing to choose from, why chose a discipline that you have no personal experience of, which involves intimate contact with women at a time when they are very vulnerable. And why should his desire to do that job trump a woman’s right to privacy and dignity.

As ever, what the (sex offending bastard) penis wants, the penis must have.

Resus officer as well in the context of being turned on by strangulation…..🤮

And NO WOMAN is obliged to acquiesce to a man laying his hands on her out of regard for his feelings.

This is very basic consent.

That's not very fair. Many men will choose this work for the right reasons. Can men not feel a straightforward desire to support people, some of whom are female, in difficult circumstances?

I DGAF what reasons a man wants to work with pregnant/birthing women, really. My reasons for wanting a female midwife matter more than his reasons for wanting to be around women.

Or indecent images of children people need to stop using that term it’s horrible.
Look up Lucy faithful foundation or stop it now for more accurate info (it’s not great reading but there are SO many people out there living amongst us who have done or are doing this. Taking their own kids to school having kids friends round etc scares the life out of me!!

Re judges comments I took it to mean that it’s a waste of training and one less midwife, not that he is worthy of any kind of sympathy etc at all. Horrible horrible man, I think they should be locked up and not allowed within miles of children once released

So the judge would feel absolutely fine of the man had images of male rape - and he was gloving-up do his prostate check?

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There is no such thing as child porn. They are child abuse images.

I will always be highly suspicious of any man that chooses to work with vulnerable woman and children.

Whilst I appreciate you feel how you feel, my experiences are the opposite. I had a complicated consultant led pregnancy, which involved surgery half way through. My male Ob-Gyn was an absolute bloody star, his (also male) registrar was brilliant too. Met some of his students male and female and whilst I did wonder how one of them had made it to medical school! I didn't have a bad feeling about any of them.

I don't think it's unusual for a judge to feel sad for the waste of human life or the detriment to society of losing someone contributing in a beneficial way, especially since they see so much of it.

I'm not sure how that really translates into "feeling sad for a pedophile" as if it's about wishing pedophiles could have happier lives or something.

I didn't read it that way so much as 'now our desperately needed midwives are now one less because of you, you loser'. Less individual, more general.

This is how I read it too.

No parent is going to want their baby delivered by a paedophile. No woman is going to want her genitalia touched by a sex offender. The judge seems at pains to be sympathetic here. Why does a letter from a spouse count for anything? Being married didn't stop this man from offending.

And people should be able to request a same-sex HCP.

Someone that managed to train into a profession where they would have access to countless of vulnerable women and babies.

Never happens apparently.

Her behaviour is despicable too.

What the actual hell?

Why isn’t this sick beast locked up with the keys thrown away?

I have always been against male midwives, not that I think they are all paedophiles but they are men. I would never agree to have one.

Same. I refused intimate care from men throughout my pregnancy and thereafter.

I cannot fathom how a fellow nurse (his partner) could write a 'glowing reference' & keep her registration?

You must be of good character & it's just not good character to write a reference for a paedophile. & she knew he was a paedophile when she wrote it.

I'm not victim blaming here - as she is likely a victim of all this too, but she has enabled him to remain at large in society. It's unforgivable.