Judge is sad paedophile won't be able to keep his job as a midwife

And another woman saved his arse from jail I mean can you even comprehend that your husband or boyfriend he’s caught red-handed with that material if that was me he’d be praying the prison officers got to him before I did

Do male midwives have to have a CRB check or whatever it’s called these days?. They are working with the vulnerable.

This reminds me of the Judge in the Ted Bundy trial.
"You're a bright young man. You would have made a good lawyer and I would have loved to have you practice in front of me, but you went another way, partner. Take care of yourself. I don't feel any animosity toward you. I want you to know that. Once again, take care of yourself."

A man who tortured and murdered young women and girls.

WTF

Any comment on this guy liking extreme porn?

Nooooo just whether it's in women's best interests in general to have male midwives. A very very different discipline to any other.

I think the sad bit is how it feeds into the myth that men working in female-dominated professions have suspect motivation. And that nobody called out the judge on that appalling comment, of course!

The focus should not be on satisfying your own desire to help, but on whether your support will be beneficial to the recipient.
I think that's sophistry. Someone saying they want to help is likely to be saying so from the point of view of wanting their support to be beneficial to the recipient.

PurgatoryOfPotholes, there's no reason to snipe at me. I was responding in my post to someone saying they didn't get why men wanted to become midwives, not talking about this particular case.

And I did google it 'really hard' (again, why the tone?); I did come across unedifying stories too. But the majority are not sinister.

The male midwives thing is a reasonable strand of this conversation.

That conversation doesn't take away from the discussion about the bizarre comments from the judge.

I read it in a "You let yourself down, you let everyone down" kind of way, not sympathetic at all.

It's unbelievable how the judiciary are just allowing this bullshit to go unpunished.

Oh, he's such a good worker (accessing potential victims) - such a shame he won't be able to do that job any more (not for the potential victims, you almighty cockweasel!)
Oh he didn't mean to choke her to death, she likes rough sex - yeah, not THAT fucking rough. She DIED. Doubt she wanted that - but hey, let's give him a slap on the wrist because he "didn't mean it".
Raped someone? Oh sure, he didn't mean any harm by it, but no one would go out with him so he had to get sex somehow!
Assaulted some woman? Well but now he's a woman so he can go free because it's hard enough being a TW without having to go to prison for it.

It's a war on women and women's rights and it's getting worse and worse.

Agree re work involving women vulnerable and in pain and sometimes life threatening danger sounds like an interesting job for a man with a sexual interest in women being abused and harmed.

And of course the midwife has power over her really.

The fact this man was also found with extreme porn, depicting women being tortured, makes me think he got off on women being vulnerable and in pain. hence his choice of career.

However, why would a man choose to be a midwife? I don't get it and I don't trust those who do.

Google 'why would a man choose to be a midwife?' and you'll come across some very informative articles on the subject. One that I thought was interesting was a man who had been birthing partner to two of his female friends.

Also bizarre comment from judge-

'You owe your partner a huge debt for that letter written on your behalf.

'She stood by you and I would suggest you stand by her because she has made all the difference in keeping you out of prison today.'

????????

Judge-

'There is a world out there in which women and girls are forced into performing extreme acts that are not only degrading but are painful and dangerous.'

I have no idea what that comment is for or about it's just weird.

Actually read the article now.

Other judge comments-

He added: 'As you have said, you were falling down a slippery slope and things became worse and worse.'

His reasons given accepted. Sounds like what anyone would say in defence. And he has masses of pictures some class a. Slippery slope?

Things became worse and worse? Could have talked to someone or got help or I dunno anything on that slippery old slope before getting images of child rape.

My personal experience is that for smears I ask for a female but if zero chance I would maybe say ok to man. However having written that for smears the answer shouldn't ever be no women available man or nothing.

My midwife was absolutely awful in so many ways. She was useless. She essentially said I was 'reacting' wrong rather than something actually could be wrong

Anyway eventually male doc came in one look at me one look at readings emergency section in theatre within a couple mins.

I have also seen male gynaes and that's fine.

So I'm not personally totally no men near this stuff. But for me. Birth. Pregnancy even. Are a different thing. So female. Not a medical situation usually. Birth is proven to go better if woman feels comfy with who is with her.

It's one role in a massive number in healthcare. It's vastly predominantly female. That's vastly predominantly what women want. There is no need for men to do this job. And much easier all round if they don't .

The older I get the less generous I become.

I would have used to said why shouldn't men be midwives!

Now I think why should they? Loads of women only want a woman and those that don't mind are ok with women so no loss.

There are women who will go to booking and not want to seem sexist or rude and so not ask for a change. That's just a fact.

If there's an emergency or something then he could be needed no choice.