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Marion Millar

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Sexnotgender · 14/09/2021 18:55

I just read Marion is having to put her home on the market.

I’m fucking incandescent with rage at this bullshit.

How do we help?

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littlbrowndog · 16/09/2021 21:05

Does he ? Omg

Greencoatblue · 16/09/2021 16:39

Me too. Thankful to know the money will go directly to her.

ScreamingMeMe · 16/09/2021 16:29

@nauticant

Oh. It seems the Sprout character advocates the misuse of CSE images to get his targets into trouble.
He posts on here sometimes as Oolon. Can't believe MNHQ allow it actually.
TooWicked · 16/09/2021 16:26

[quote Tesla73]Glinner has info here on the person behind this weeks attack on MMs crowdfunding

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/cruelty-as-a-hobby?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copy[/quote]
Thanks for this, I’ve just donated as per his instructions on how to do so!

nauticant · 16/09/2021 16:26

Oh. It seems the Sprout character advocates the misuse of CSE images to get his targets into trouble.

ScreamingMeMe · 16/09/2021 16:04

Our old friend Sprout Hmm

Tesla73 · 16/09/2021 15:27

Glinner has info here on the person behind this weeks attack on MMs crowdfunding

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/cruelty-as-a-hobby?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copy

Jaysmith71 · 15/09/2021 19:57

The court will try the case, assuming it isn't thrown out. If it comes to it, the prosecution must prove, beyond reasonable doubt, that whatever it was that MM did caused alarm and distress to the parties, and that she intended this and/or was reckless as to whether it would.

It will be for the court alone to determine this, subject to a potential appeal.

Let us wait and see what happens.

Fitt · 15/09/2021 19:31

@suggestionsplease1

So the original charges weren't strong enough in the end and then the situation was ballsed up by posting about the police officer involved, and that does seem to be sticking? (Well court case pending, granted.)

That really is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

It's the police and CPS (or Scottish equivalent, sorry) desperately trying to salvage their reputation after being made fools of.

Obviously you won't want to see that but it's quite blatant.

MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 19:21

An accusation against the police has been made by not one by two posters here (also see Passmeamenuatthetottenham Wed 15-Sep-21 17:14:51).

I asked for a source for the potentially defamatory accusation from jay and all he/she could reply with was a tweet from Marion?

quote from Jaysmith71: "As are the identities of the allegedly injured parties"

The articles you linked don't actually name any of the complainants.

suggestionsplease1 · 15/09/2021 18:57

So the original charges weren't strong enough in the end and then the situation was ballsed up by posting about the police officer involved, and that does seem to be sticking? (Well court case pending, granted.)

That really is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

RedDogsBeg · 15/09/2021 18:12

@MargaritaPie

"That article you attach gives zero detail and yet again you confidently assert that that is the tweet."

I haven't posted any tweets. I asked what Jaysmith's source for her claims was and she was the one who posted a tweet.

and you decided that tweet was the one referenced in the allegation of a potentially defamatory accusation against a police officer, this is what you said:

Your source for a potentially defamatory accusation against a police officer is a tweet from someone who has been charged over it?

Ergo you are stating as fact that Marion has been charged over the tweet that Jaysmith posted.

ClosDesMouches · 15/09/2021 17:40

@nauticant

Anyone on this thread is free to decide that wrestling with a pig isn't worth it.
Exactly this. I am fed up of seeing the derailing of threads about MM.
nauticant · 15/09/2021 17:36

Anyone on this thread is free to decide that wrestling with a pig isn't worth it.

Jaysmith71 · 15/09/2021 17:34

All of this is for the court to determine.

I report what others have said. It is a fact that they said it. To accuse them of lying without evidence is defamatory.

MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 17:31

"That article you attach gives zero detail and yet again you confidently assert that that is the tweet."

I haven't posted any tweets. I asked what Jaysmith's source for her claims was and she was the one who posted a tweet.

Jaysmith71 · 15/09/2021 17:31

We have no idea whether or not MM's accusations about the officer are the alleged 'false information.'

We know that PC Gul denied Harry Miller's claim that he spoke about needing to 'check your thinking.' Harry had this in contemporaneous notes, like the good ex-copper that he is.

MM wrote her tweets about the arrest shortly afterwards. Is it now an allegation that she fabricated the whole thing motivated by the fact the officer was gay before knowing this was the case?

MargaritaPie · 15/09/2021 17:29

"Once again you state as fact"

tbh the post on here I'm concerned about is by Jaysmith71 Wed 15-Sep-21 16:07:31 which states a couple of things as "fact".

RedDogsBeg · 15/09/2021 17:24

And your source and evidence that that is the alleged false information referred to is?

That article you attach gives zero detail and yet again you confidently assert that that is the tweet.

Once again you state as fact something which you don't and cannot know as the case is sub judice and the exact details are not in the public domain.

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 15/09/2021 17:21

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/09/2021 17:20

As people keep saying, the process is the punishment. Regardless of what happens in court her life has been hugely impacted, and a very strong message has been sent to women.

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 15/09/2021 17:14

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/09/2021 17:11

The copper who nicked MM and threatened to take her kids away.

And isn't it interesting that this alleged offence happened after she was first spoken too, and the apparent hundreds of homophobic/transphobic tweets receive no mention at all... Almost as if they were struggling for something that would stick...